Re: Challenges for the Top 8

by **Loreia** Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:22 pm

Wow, Jon and Forrest are going on Pass 13 (maybe 14?).

by **Lady Corrine Marsten** Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:23 pm

Truly a battle for the ages. Very Happy

by **Jon Templeton** Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:25 pm

Dat stamina. Smile

I gave myself low expectations and have been pleasantly surprised by Jon (and Forrest's) resilience.

by **Theomore Tullison** Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:41 pm

Heh, I had expected injuries to kick in before unhorse. Also expected those to hit Jon though.

But it's also a scenario where going with offensive maneuvers leaves Forrest exposed. And that one injury probably means he's slowly going to slip up.

by **Jon Templeton** Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:49 pm

I figured there'd be an unlucky Stay in Saddle roll by now. Plus both opponents have slowly accepted that in order to unhorse the other they'll have to take offensive risks.

At what point does fatigue start to set in. Not that I want a house rule or anything just wondering aloud how long could people keep that up before that lance and shield dip lower and lower.

by **Aerion Storm** Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:55 pm

Meanwhile, as much as I'm also enjoying the show, I'm just wincing with every pass, thinking about the Tourney Lance tab they're racking up, at 40 ss each attack (on anything but a critical miss). It sucks being poor. Wink

by **Theomore Tullison** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:11 pm

There's 5250 tourney lances worth of cash going into hosting this tourney though.

by **Baelon Drakeson** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:23 pm

Theomore Tullison wrote:Heh, I had expected injuries to kick in before unhorse. Also expected those to hit Jon though.

But it's also a scenario where going with offensive maneuvers leaves Forrest exposed. And that one injury probably means he's slowly going to slip up.

Yeah, the smarter move for Lord Forrest would have been to go Defensive 2; he would still reliably get 1 DoS hits on Jon while minimized the number of stay in saddle tests he would have had to make. However, it would have stretched this out even more, and ultimately would not have mattered.

Jon Templeton wrote:I figured there'd be an unlucky Stay in Saddle roll by now. Plus both opponents have slowly accepted that in order to unhorse the other they'll have to take offensive risks.

At what point does fatigue start to set in. Not that I want a house rule or anything just wondering aloud how long could people keep that up before that lance and shield dip lower and lower.

Yeah, up until you got that string of perfect and near-perfect results I was expecting this to be a minimal damage bout, ending with bad luck. Which it did, but the damage at the end got pretty severe, more than most jousts. Not so bad that it will have any long-term effect on Lord Forrest though.

Aerion Storm wrote:Meanwhile, as much as I'm also enjoying the show, I'm just wincing with every pass, thinking about the Tourney Lance tab they're racking up, at 40 ss each attack (on anything but a critical miss). It sucks being poor.

As Theo said, they're on the house. Also, after this you won't be nearly as poor any more. pirat

EDIT: Forgot to include the main thing I was posting about. The top list has been updated, and as Ser Alfred is still absent and Loreia withdrew, Ben is up next.

by **Aerion Storm** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:32 pm

Well, I guess I'm the only sucker who poured a bunch of his starting money on double-digits of tourney lances and a mule and wagon to carry 'em in, huh? Smile

Great jousting, BTW! Very dramatic, good stuff.

by **Baelon Drakeson** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:37 pm

I'm sure reader wouldn't mind retconning that pre-play purchase if you ask. that's a pretty minor revision.

by **Ser Walton Dulver** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:40 pm

Aerion Storm wrote:Well, I guess I'm the only sucker who poured a bunch of his starting money on double-digits of tourney lances and a mule and wagon to carry 'em in, huh?

Great jousting, BTW! Very dramatic, good stuff.

starting money, yes Very Happy

But later on Walton bought wagon, pair of mules to pull it, pair of corsers and destriers- one of each to travel and other for more knightly/lordly stuff, I guess. Only one of them doesn't have his own barding, except mules of course.

by **Aerion Storm** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:43 pm

Heh, nah, it's fine. It's not the end of the world. I've already established his humble rounsey, breastplate, etc, anyways. No need to retcon it away, I've got ransoms coming in and a Reader thread in private where I'm spending the percentage of it not being given to Ser Harbert.

Upgrades will come in time. Smile

I'll just have a wayn full of lances with me at all times, so I'm ready to joust at a moment's notice. I kinda like what it says about him.

by **Baelon Drakeson** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:47 pm

Fair enough! The light armor may hurt you in the quarterfinals, though. You know, if anyone can actually hit you.

by **Theomore Tullison** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:47 pm

Those two ride specialties really tip the scales in terms of unhorsing, in Jon's favor more than Forrest having +1D on him. Forrest can get the DoS advantage, but this is all about failing an easy roll rather than scoring DoS. And as long as there are no injuries in play, that is more likely to happen to Forrest, if he maneuvers away his chance at inflicting 2 DoS, then not only is he not able to inflict injuries to improve his chances, all Jon has to face is TN 9's, and it's the occasional 2 DoS hits with accompanying TN 12 tests that makes this almost even when injuries are not accounted for.

Eyes fixed was probably the optimal strategy.

by **Baelon Drakeson** Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:51 pm

Perhaps. The extra damage taken would never have mattered, as without aggressive lowering his PR Jon could not get 2 DoS, no matter his maneuver (barring daily BoA +2 or DP expenditure). However, Lord Forrest would still be routinely making ride tests, and the potential for a bad roll was the greatest threat to him.

by **Aerion Storm** Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:14 am

Anyways, what matters is it was friggin' awesome. Surprised

Nicely done, both of ya, it was fun.

(and, while I'm here, kudos to those who posted in those earlier jousts that just got linked to, too, btw!)

by **Benedict Marsten** Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:12 pm

When Ben saw his draw, Ser Loreth, he only smiled and shook his head. He turned to Willum and with a laugh clasped the boy on the shoulder. "Gods, know that man is hard enough to drop when not on horse."

(ooc: choose Loreth Landsdale)

by **Baelon Drakeson** Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:14 pm

Great. I'll post his first maneuver in my private forum, if you can get a thread up and start on your first pass we can get this knocked out and onto the actual top 8 in no time. pirat

EDIT Maneuver posted.

by **Baelon Drakeson** Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:02 pm

With Ben's defeat and Alfred still being absent, I am dropping Ser Loreth as the lowest remaining NC to make room for Aerion, who scored into position #1.

Final Rankings:

Aerion Storm, 37
Ser Theomore Tullison, 35
Ser Florian Greysteel, 34 (Status 4)
Lord Baelon Drakeson, 32
Ser Jorah Holt, 28 (Status 5, Rep 1)
Ser Erryk Cargyll, 28 (Status 5, Rep 0)
Ser Kevan Lyras, 25
Ser Jon Templeton, 20

Per the competition thread:

Baelon Drakeson wrote:The top 8 scorers will be our Final 8 and compete in the quarterfinals, run as a traditional single elimination:
Lane 1: 1st vs 8th
Lane 2: 3rd vs 6th
Lane 3: 4th vs 5th
Lane 4: 2nd vs 7th
Semi-finals are the Lane 1 victor vs the Lane 2 victor, etc.

So our quarterfinal match-ups are:

Lane 1: Aerion Storm vs Ser Jon Templeton
Lane 2: Ser Florian Greysteel vs Ser Erryk Cargyll (I will do a quick-roll of this one)
Lane 3: Lord Baelon Drakeson vs Ser Jorah Holt
Lane 4: Ser Theomore Tullison vs Ser Kevan Lyras

To keep things orderly, I will create threads for these.

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