[D8:MM] Truth will out (Open)
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Septon Arlyn
Davain Bartheld
Gwyneth Drakeson
Yoren longshore
Baelon Drakeson
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Re: [D8:MM] Truth will out (Open)
Septon Arlyn was beginning to doze off when he was startled awake by hearing his young pupils voice. Septon Arlyn snorts slightly as he is dragged back to consciousness and then quickly coughs to cover it up. oh gods, here we go again. and begins frantically thinking of any historical cases that may help Terren in a defense for Yoren.
A bit blearily still his fatigued mind tried to recall anything of note.
A bit blearily still his fatigued mind tried to recall anything of note.
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Septon Arlyn- Posts : 2410
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Re: [D8:MM] Truth will out (Open)
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I didn't give him cause to,"
Gwyn replies. "
I cooperated. I recognized his authority to arrest me for questioning. And while you may make light of this, bear in mind that while he may have had some notion of trying to make a point, or intimidate me into conceding the discussion, he made the announcement that I was his prisoner in all gravity, and was in fact starting to lead me away before he suddenly changed his mind. I had no reason not to take him seriously, and even if I had...to do otherwise could easily have been construed as resisting arrest."
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In short, he didn't simply throw off a flippant 'you're under arrest.' He chose to actually move through the process of placing me under arrest over the course of several minutes before changing his mind."
I didn't give him cause to,"
Gwyn replies. "
I cooperated. I recognized his authority to arrest me for questioning. And while you may make light of this, bear in mind that while he may have had some notion of trying to make a point, or intimidate me into conceding the discussion, he made the announcement that I was his prisoner in all gravity, and was in fact starting to lead me away before he suddenly changed his mind. I had no reason not to take him seriously, and even if I had...to do otherwise could easily have been construed as resisting arrest."
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In short, he didn't simply throw off a flippant 'you're under arrest.' He chose to actually move through the process of placing me under arrest over the course of several minutes before changing his mind."
Gwyneth Drakeson- Posts : 2808
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Yoren simply tells her: "
That's a lie."
Before he moves onwards. "
Drakeson is not amongst the seven houses here to investigate, yet they seem to be the ones who judges me."
He looks a little between Corrine and Jasper Wylde: "
Who is it that has the authority here?"
That's a lie."
Before he moves onwards. "
Drakeson is not amongst the seven houses here to investigate, yet they seem to be the ones who judges me."
He looks a little between Corrine and Jasper Wylde: "
Who is it that has the authority here?"
Yoren longshore- Posts : 2376
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Theomore draws his palm over his face....he didn't quite get what went through Yoren's mind in this. This wasn't even good for a laugh. Well, he needed to see what came out of this nonsense regardless.
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Pray forgive me, but I was under the impression that it was the lady Gwyneth we were supposed to question over charges that Lord Yoren has set forth? This does not look like that to my eyes."
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Pray forgive me, but I was under the impression that it was the lady Gwyneth we were supposed to question over charges that Lord Yoren has set forth? This does not look like that to my eyes."
Theomore Tullison- Posts : 3580
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Let's just move these precedings along please?"
Septon inquires. "
I'm in agreement with Davian these precedings are a waste of everyone's time. So let's just move on and be done with it."
Septon Arlyn sounds tried and a little iteratable. gods Yoren, let this be a lesson. Dragons a part wyrm according to Septon Barth, thus anything said to Drakeson must be filtered through the most stringent of legal power plays.
Let's just move these precedings along please?"
Septon inquires. "
I'm in agreement with Davian these precedings are a waste of everyone's time. So let's just move on and be done with it."
Septon Arlyn sounds tried and a little iteratable. gods Yoren, let this be a lesson. Dragons a part wyrm according to Septon Barth, thus anything said to Drakeson must be filtered through the most stringent of legal power plays.
Septon Arlyn- Posts : 2410
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Re: [D8:MM] Truth will out (Open)
Yoren longshore wrote:Yoren simply tells her: "
That's a lie."
Before he moves onwards. "
Drakeson is not amongst the seven houses here to investigate, yet they seem to be the ones who judges me."
He looks a little between Corrine and Jasper Wylde: "
Who is it that has the authority here?"
Corrine rubs her left temple wearily.
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My lord Yoren, did you, or did you not accuse Lady Gwyneth of tampering with evidence, and state that you were placing her under arrest? Speak truly and simply, for we grow impatient with this squabbling."
Lady Corrine Marsten- Posts : 6275
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I never accused her of tampering with evidence. I said that she was under arrest sarcastically. I said it as a rhetorical tool as an example to why investigators can't have free reign to arrest whomever we will without proper cause. At once I realized that she was trying to entrap me I left."
Yoren speaks swiftly as to not be interrupted. Then he slows down and clarifies.
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At once I understood that her motive was not to have a discussion, merely to entrap me I left. I came for a friendly talk to solve some arguments, that's all."
I never accused her of tampering with evidence. I said that she was under arrest sarcastically. I said it as a rhetorical tool as an example to why investigators can't have free reign to arrest whomever we will without proper cause. At once I realized that she was trying to entrap me I left."
Yoren speaks swiftly as to not be interrupted. Then he slows down and clarifies.
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At once I understood that her motive was not to have a discussion, merely to entrap me I left. I came for a friendly talk to solve some arguments, that's all."
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An interesting declaration, seeing as how I approached him, not the other way around,"
Gwyn points out. "
But it seems we're at the point where we're reduced to simply pointing fingers at each other and declaring one another liars. Shall I produce the witnesses to back my side of the story up?"
An interesting declaration, seeing as how I approached him, not the other way around,"
Gwyn points out. "
But it seems we're at the point where we're reduced to simply pointing fingers at each other and declaring one another liars. Shall I produce the witnesses to back my side of the story up?"
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[ooc: paused for an intercession by Jasper Wylde, better known as Ironrod]
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Words have weight, Yoren. One does not arrest someone 'sarcastically' and get to just avoid any consequence. At best, what you have done is in poor taste. It seems to me that you are trying to wriggle out of your error because you were caught out, since you quickly tried to retract when Lady Gwyneth pointed out that the other investigators should be informed. Like your bastard brother, you seem to think that the rules don't apply to you. But making an arrest attempt is a serious matter, as you should know. One does not throw around such things frivolously. You have made a mockery of yourself and your station, and I am frankly embarrassed for you that we should all have to be entertaining this idiocy at all."
Words have weight, Yoren. One does not arrest someone 'sarcastically' and get to just avoid any consequence. At best, what you have done is in poor taste. It seems to me that you are trying to wriggle out of your error because you were caught out, since you quickly tried to retract when Lady Gwyneth pointed out that the other investigators should be informed. Like your bastard brother, you seem to think that the rules don't apply to you. But making an arrest attempt is a serious matter, as you should know. One does not throw around such things frivolously. You have made a mockery of yourself and your station, and I am frankly embarrassed for you that we should all have to be entertaining this idiocy at all."
Lady Corrine Marsten- Posts : 6275
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[size=150:orz5iem2]ENOUGH!"
thundered Lord Jasper Wylde, pounding the table.
His eyes bore in to Yoren, accusingly.
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The law is not mocked. It is not some frippery to be invoked for political purpose. Maesters have studied the law, masters of law and kings have wrestled the court to draft our laws, knights have died to uphold it."
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I will not have the law that was upheld here by your actions mocked and undermined by petty squabbles and politicking."
This Gwyneth bitch needs watching. Should have stuck to needlework.
[OOC:
-2 influence to House Longshore.
- Lord Wylde moves to dislike towards Lady Gwyneth Drakeson
Simple intrigue - TN 15 (Wylde's intrigue defence) that House Drakeson and Longshore (only) may respond to.
Longshore success:
- 1 DoS - reduce influenec penalty to -1
- 2 DoS - Lord Wylde's disposition towards Lord Drakeson deteriorates to dislike
- 3 DoS - reduce opponent's DoS by 1
- 4 DoS - 1 Glory
Drakeson success:
- 1 DoS - double Longshore influencepenalty but suffer -1 to own influence OR Lord Wylde's disposition towards Gwyneth does not deterioriate
- 2 DoS - may select both options above
- 3 DoS - reduce opponent's DoS by 1
- 4 DoS - 1 Glory]
[size=150:orz5iem2]ENOUGH!"
thundered Lord Jasper Wylde, pounding the table.
His eyes bore in to Yoren, accusingly.
"
The law is not mocked. It is not some frippery to be invoked for political purpose. Maesters have studied the law, masters of law and kings have wrestled the court to draft our laws, knights have died to uphold it."
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I will not have the law that was upheld here by your actions mocked and undermined by petty squabbles and politicking."
This Gwyneth bitch needs watching. Should have stuck to needlework.
[OOC:
-2 influence to House Longshore.
- Lord Wylde moves to dislike towards Lady Gwyneth Drakeson
Simple intrigue - TN 15 (Wylde's intrigue defence) that House Drakeson and Longshore (only) may respond to.
Longshore success:
- 1 DoS - reduce influenec penalty to -1
- 2 DoS - Lord Wylde's disposition towards Lord Drakeson deteriorates to dislike
- 3 DoS - reduce opponent's DoS by 1
- 4 DoS - 1 Glory
Drakeson success:
- 1 DoS - double Longshore influencepenalty but suffer -1 to own influence OR Lord Wylde's disposition towards Gwyneth does not deterioriate
- 2 DoS - may select both options above
- 3 DoS - reduce opponent's DoS by 1
- 4 DoS - 1 Glory]
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Yoren looks across at Wylde before simply telling him: "
You're of course right, I will be more cautious with my words in the future."
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You're of course right, I will be more cautious with my words in the future."
[url=Damage reduction][/url]: 5d6k4 19 (3dos)
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[ooc: sorry, added tn to first post - 15, based off target's ID. Will allow Yoren to use extra abilities/pious dice to a ovoid disadvantaging him]
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Lord Jasper, I truly apologize for wasting your time like this. When we informed Lady Marsten of the arrest, we truly believed that Master Yoren had intended to take my lady wife into custody, perhaps in an attempt to provoke me into foolish action. Regardless of his intent, Master Yoren's actions could not be simply ignored, lest we - and House Marsten - be accused of disregarding the law. In short, our hands were tied."
OOC: [url=TwO - Ironrod Persuasion(Charm) with 1b from glory][/url]: 7d6k6+2 24 2#1d6 2 5 ->
[6, 5, 5, 4, 4, 2,], 2]+2 ->
28 (3 DoS)
Lord Jasper, I truly apologize for wasting your time like this. When we informed Lady Marsten of the arrest, we truly believed that Master Yoren had intended to take my lady wife into custody, perhaps in an attempt to provoke me into foolish action. Regardless of his intent, Master Yoren's actions could not be simply ignored, lest we - and House Marsten - be accused of disregarding the law. In short, our hands were tied."
OOC: [url=TwO - Ironrod Persuasion(Charm) with 1b from glory][/url]: 7d6k6+2 24 2#1d6 2 5 ->
[6, 5, 5, 4, 4, 2,], 2]+2 ->
28 (3 DoS)
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With that table it won't matter either way, so I'll keep my DP.
Yoren longshore- Posts : 2376
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Very well. Master Yoren Longshore, I accuse you of false arrest and slander against Lady Gwyneth Drakeson. As you seem absurdly fond of Lord Gorman Tully's court - though after the last time House Longshore tasted his 'justice' I cannot fathom why - you may answer the charges there, when I answer the spurious charges you have leveled at me."
[OOC: House Drakeson chooses both 1 DoS options]
Very well. Master Yoren Longshore, I accuse you of false arrest and slander against Lady Gwyneth Drakeson. As you seem absurdly fond of Lord Gorman Tully's court - though after the last time House Longshore tasted his 'justice' I cannot fathom why - you may answer the charges there, when I answer the spurious charges you have leveled at me."
[OOC: House Drakeson chooses both 1 DoS options]
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