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Ayleth Bartheld
Dyana Marsten
Ser Alfred Haigh
Luecian LongBow
Samurel Manderly
Benedict Marsten
Daveth Coldbrook
Nathaniel Mason
Gwyneth Drakeson
Davain Bartheld
Baelon Drakeson
Ser Walton Dulver
Kevan Lyras
Lady Corrine Marsten
Yoren longshore
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Post by Ser Alfred Haigh Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:02 pm

Oook, in that case, lets see:

Winnings: 1050 SS
Losses: 1250 SS
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Result: -200 SS

Argh, my poor purse ! But well, it should make fopr an interesting development.
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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:36 pm

Did Sam quit permanently, or did he return in the guise of another character?

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Post by Reader Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:53 pm

Yoren longshore wrote:Did Sam quit permanently, or did he return in the guise of another character?


No word back from him after a specific pm and he flunked his dangerous offseason event, dead and isn't back in another form. Would be warmly welcomed back.
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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:03 pm

And now his watch has ended.

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Post by Loreia Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:02 pm

I think it would be wiser that, when he flunked his offseason event, he ran into Dyana, and together they found a way to escape the danger following him, provided Dyana's player makes some rolls. That way you can NPC him until he returns, and Dyana can get more activity under her belt.

I will definitely be more frugal with how I spend my DP from now on. I could have gotten back up on my horse in my tilt against Jon Roxton at the Redwain wedding, but the way it resolved still fits my character.
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Post by Reader Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:16 pm

Loreia wrote:I think it would be wiser that, when he flunked his offseason event, he ran into Dyana, and together they found a way to escape the danger following him, provided Dyana's player makes some rolls. That way you can NPC him until he returns, and Dyana can get more activity under her belt.

I will definitely be more frugal with how I spend my DP from now on. I could have gotten back up on my horse in my tilt against Jon Roxton at the Redwain wedding, but the way it resolved still fits my character.

Here I've got some genre appropriate bloodshed and a fate for Samurel I'd discussed with him previously (which made the decision a little easier for me). Need to keep my deathcount up where people miss rolls. I quite liked the structure of Samurel's event, and this kind of thing reminds people that there's a risk/reward balance to events! Going for biggers prizes IC often bears a larger risk.

Dyana following up has some potential too - a returning Samurel can always burn a DP to return as nine-fingered Sam. No body sighted yet, so I've left us a back door. :;
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The above all said, haul me in players if I develop a bloodthirsty streak and people feel I'm being unfair.
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Post by Ser Fendrel Bartheld Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:57 pm

How socially (in)acceptable is it NOT to ransom one's own equipment? Is there any stigma attached to that?

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Post by Theomore Tullison Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:11 pm

Like, horse and armor now belongs to the victor, so if you were asking not giving that (or ransom it)...well unheard of methinks.

Refusing to allow your opponent to ransom it back after defeating him is not considered very nice, but it happens.
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Post by Ser Fendrel Bartheld Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:13 pm

Theomore Tullison wrote:Like, horse and armor now belongs to the victor, so if you were asking not giving that (or ransom it)...well unheard of methinks.

Refusing to allow your opponent to ransom it back after defeating him is not considered very nice, but it happens.

I understand that -- I meant not buying your own lost equipment back from someone else though. Is it socially acceptable to not but it back and just let the other knight keep it (and possibly sell it somewhere else)? Or would that not be done in "
polite company"
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Post by Theomore Tullison Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:18 pm

It happens, yeah.

Usually as in, you don't have the money to buy it back, so people will ask questions if you do not.
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Post by Ser Alfred Haigh Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:21 pm

Well, there are enough people who might be unable to afford the ransom on the one side or those who have a suit of armour or two to spare and hence don't strictly need to ransom their stuff. It happens, I guess, but normally, most people who are in a business that requires them to have some horse and armour (think hedge knights for example) will try to work something out, even if they lack the coin.
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Post by Loreia Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:27 pm

It's not impolite or bad manners to not ransom your equipment back, but rather the manners are expected of the party who won.

Declining someone's wishes to regain their equipment is rude, and harsh depending on the circumstances. If you're the winning party, and you try to gift back the equipment you won against someone's wishes to pay ransom for it, you also run the risk of offending them. I had to dodge that myself in the thread were I tried to mitigate the loss in Jon's disposition toward me.
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Post by Ser Fendrel Bartheld Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:30 pm

Thank you for the information geek

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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:02 pm

Well, everything depends on the scenario. A knight can demand a much higher price for the armor, and then most would consider it unnecessarily grand to pay. Why buy your armor back when you can get a new set for half the prize?

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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:08 pm

Loreia wrote:[. "
We were in for more surprises at Thenn. The Longshore heir already spoke the Old Tongue to get us a guide, an' 'e spoke it again to trade with the wildling tribes of Thenn, to trade with 'em for grains an' trinkets. And between them an' th' folks we met along the way, he sent some wildlings south to where we came ashore, to sail back with his men."


She speaks of this as though it were a grave offense. To her, it seemed Yoren had no wish for secrecy that he had the people he "
saved"
return with his men to live on Longshore land...
[partial offense, and partially troubled, not that she intends to let on to Lord Blackwood]
Oh dear... Smugglers of illegal immigrants often gets quite a bad reputation Sad

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Post by Reader Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:15 pm

Cackle. What does a strange worshipper of a queer foreign God have to do to get a break round here?
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Post by Ser Fendrel Bartheld Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:16 pm

Reader wrote:Cackle. What does a strange worshipper of a queer foreign God have to do to get a break round here?

Confess? Erm. Convert?

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Post by Gwyneth Drakeson Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:17 pm

Yes! Confess!

FETCH THE COMFY CHAIR!
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Post by Loreia Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:27 pm

Oh, just marry some popular dame from a noble house in the mainland and they'll get over it. Laughing

If you invited them, I wouldn't call it illegal unless your uncle or father disapproved. Generally anybody who invites Free Folk anywhere south of the Wall earns a stain on their reputation. The wildlings you allowed to come with you are probably trustworthy, but that won't change any negative opinions. If it's not because of bias, it's because of principle or policy.
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Post by Ser Alfred Haigh Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:29 pm

It could be worse, someone could invite... Ironborn south of the wall.
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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:39 pm

Stained reputation? That's what I get for saving near extinction species?

I should marry a popular dame, it's just that people-smuggling, body-burning, bookish hedens usually struggle to come close to those Rolling Eyes This game of thrones is rigged!

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Post by Septon Arlyn Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:42 pm

Well if you ever wanted to change your ways you are and I know if I Septon it you has already lent an ear or other confessions. I'm sure that he would love to hear yours as well Twisted Evil
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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:56 pm

Septon Arlyn wrote:Well if you ever wanted to change your ways you are and I know if I Septon it you has already lent an ear or other confessions. I'm sure that he would love to hear yours as well Twisted Evil
Can I get a 3 for two discount? With the new gold system, bidnis isn't exactly thriving...

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Post by Septon Arlyn Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:05 pm

I think we can arrange something Yoren, 2/3rds of a soul saved is better then no soul at all Razz
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Post by Yoren longshore Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:12 pm

Hmm, what's your stance on humanoid creatures of near human intelect? If you charge per kilo, it might be more than Longshore can offer... We 'ave some large 'uns

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