Re: Game Discussion

[Athelstan]

Im just calling his bluff, or he can kill me and its murder

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

It's kind of not though, any more than it's murder when a cop covers a fleeing suspect with a gun and clearly warns him...and then he tries to run away and gets shot.

That's not really considered murder. Tragic yes, but not murder.

[Yoren longshore]

I think it is that way, but upon review of the rules I find no mention of it.

[Reader]

I think it is that way, but upon review of the rules I find no mention of it.

No problem! At least 90% of the time you're right and lightning fast.

[Yoren longshore]

90 percent f people are right, but I've always been left. Usibg a scissor is a nightmare

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Corrine and I genuinely have no fucking clue what's going on. :?

[Nathaniel Mason]

I can't see that in my rulebook under knockdown or strength? Sorry of I missed it.

It's not specifically in RAW, but is almost universally accepted since Knockdown says you are using 'Brute Strength' to perform the maneuver.

[Samurel Manderly]

Might I add, that "
Don't Rock the Boat Baby"
is literally how this entire D3 is feeling like

[Baelon Drakeson]

Strength on knockdown has been discussed before, but I don't think a ruling was made.
RAW says neither 'yes' nor 'no'. Precedent (from Maneuver) says 'no'. Appropriateness to written description says 'yes'.

Game balance, I would argue, says 'no'. Knockdown is already one of the most effective techniques available, utilizing an attribute that many prioritize and targeting an attribute that many do not. It is already used in pretty much every combat, and can often be a deciding factor. Do we really want it to be even stronger?

[Nathaniel Mason]

Strength on knockdown has been discussed before, but I don't think a ruling was made.
RAW says neither 'yes' nor 'no'. Precedent (from Maneuver) says 'no'. Appropriateness to written description says 'yes'.

I will only say that we allow (Notice) on the awareness test to notice the danger.

[Baelon Drakeson]

Indeed, and I feel that is appropriate. However, maneuver is described as 'pressing the attack' but does not include weapon specialization. The point being that description is not the ultimate arbiter of when specializations get to be used. :;
):

But perhaps this would be better in the Mechanics thread?

[Ser Walton Dulver]

Strength on knockdown has been discussed before, but I don't think a ruling was made.
RAW says neither 'yes' nor 'no'. Precedent (from Maneuver) says 'no'. Appropriateness to written description says 'yes'.

Game balance, I would argue, says 'no'. Knockdown is already one of the most effective techniques available, utilizing an attribute that many prioritize and targeting an attribute that many do not. It is already used in pretty much every combat, and can often be a deciding factor. Do we really want it to be even stronger?

meh, cut most of my post or SOMEONE edited it, no idea xD anyway, I suggested to house rule knockdowns, for example to have minimum 2DoS to success or something

[Reader]

Strength on knockdown has been discussed before, but I don't think a ruling was made.
RAW says neither 'yes' nor 'no'. Precedent (from Maneuver) says 'no'. Appropriateness to written description says 'yes'.

Game balance, I would argue, says 'no'. Knockdown is already one of the most effective techniques available, utilizing an attribute that many prioritize and targeting an attribute that many do not. It is already used in pretty much every combat, and can often be a deciding factor. Do we really want it to be even stronger?

- let's keep it real

Get thee to the mechanics thread. :;
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[Theomore Tullison]

Corrine and I genuinely have no fucking clue what's going on. :?

Agreed, though it definitely should be fun.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Corrine and I genuinely have no fucking clue what's going on. :?

Agreed, though it definitely should be fun.

Of course, I'm just responding to the accusation of betrayal.

[Yoren longshore]

Might I add, that "
Don't Rock the Boat Baby"
is literally how this entire D3 is feeling like

Don't rock the boat, rock the world!

[Ser Walton Dulver]

Might I add, that "
Don't Rock the Boat Baby"
is literally how this entire D3 is feeling like

Don't rock the boat, rock the world!

or rock lobster

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Might I add, that "
Don't Rock the Boat Baby"
is literally how this entire D3 is feeling like

Don't rock the boat, rock the world!

or rock lobstar

I love that song!

[Athelstan]

Must be quite the brainstorm in the Coldbrook camp or something, waiting on the Yield replay

Any how, lot's of Dulver's!!! My favorite character is Raynald from the Dulver's

[Reader]

Must be quite the brainstorm in the Coldbrook camp or something, waiting on the Yield replay

Any how, lot's of Dulver's!!! My favorite character is Raynald from the Dulver's

I imagine he will shake things up! Good to have more dubious types. :;
):

[Samurel Manderly]

Must be quite the brainstorm in the Coldbrook camp or something, waiting on the Yield replay

Any how, lot's of Dulver's!!! My favorite character is Raynald from the Dulver's

Definitely the most lively out of all of us

[Theomore Tullison]

Oooh, politics.

Interesting thing here being that it's rather ambiguous who might put Athelstan on trial, Drakeson weren't mentioned in the king's letter, so Baelon can't. If Coldbrook and/or Marsten claim the authority without consulting with the others, they set a precedence that the other five houses can mete out justice as they please.

It's ambiguous if the authority given to these seven houses by the king actually allows for arresting/punishing anyone tampering with evidence, too.

But westerosi law is ambigious by design, so let the fun commence. Baelon basically insulting the Longshores same as Cat insulted the Lannisters by taking Tyrion captive is the only thing not ambigious here.

[Septon Arlyn]

Especially with out even consulting the other houses involved or providing evidence that there even was tampering that occurred.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Especially with out even consulting the other houses involved or providing evidence that there even was tampering that occurred.

Indeed. Corrine is going to have words with several people.

[Luecian LongBow]

I clearly missed something very interesting, need to catch up!"

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