Re: Crime and punishment (discussing how to mete out punishm

[Reader]

One small correction: Rufus* not Rupert

That's what I get for just going by the first page summary.
Corrected, thanks.

I did look at the NPC page for the late Lady Blackwood's name, but alas, it was not there. I thought I saw it in a thread somewhere, but I've no clue now. If anyone knows, I would like to list her properly rather than "
and his lady wife"
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Side note, I've long thought we were being played by House Darry in regards to the border breaches. With the recent findings that House Bracken did NOT damage Darry lands, I believe so even more. I strongly suspect that they knew about (and maybe even welcomed) the House Blackwood troops stationed in their lands, and caused the damage to their lands intentionally - if we meet their demands they would profit off of the damage.

I didn't name her, because I'm kind of awful narrator who stuffs women in the fridge in the name of extra tragedy without even naming them.

Ahem, feel free to posthumously name her.

Darry stuff - bwahahahaha. This is you lot's problem, not mine.

[Yoren longshore]

Should we punish Darry? Regardless of transgression bringing them ibto it would only be another weak point that people coupd use to tear the entire writ apart. Ideally we should, but westeros isn't idealistic :;
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[Samurel Manderly]

Reina Blackwood?

[Nathaniel Mason]

I didn't name her, because I'm kind of awful narrator who stuffs women in the fridge in the name of extra tragedy without even naming them.

Ahem, feel free to posthumously name her.

I thought she was off grieving in a monastery somewhere. I didn't think she was dead.

[Yoren longshore]

All: give a minute of silence to Reina Blackwood.

[Reader]

I didn't name her, because I'm kind of awful narrator who stuffs women in the fridge in the name of extra tragedy without even naming them.

Ahem, feel free to posthumously name her.

I thought she was off grieving in a monastery somewhere. I didn't think she was dead.

I'm afraid she is (ahem, Reina is) dead, as it has been mentioned in passing several times and I was keen to orphan Benjicot and place Ser Myles as regent. An innocent woman died in the name of drama and an interesting political dynamic without even being named. For all the preparation and pages of notes, I'm ashamed to have missed this!

[Theomore Tullison]

I think it's that Dalefort girl who's at some monastary somewhere.

[Reader]

I think it's that Dalefort girl who's at some monastary somewhere.

She is and she has a name and everything! Her name is/was Lily.

I'm not the worst, I'm not the worst...

Now I'm worried all the Blacks will think I'm some sort of women hating misogynist. Obviously the Dance of Dragons will be over in a month, a glorious rout with Aegon II king and Aemond his hand. :;
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[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Aemon as Hand...oh man.

[Ser Jorah Holt]

westeros will burn

[Reader]

Aemon as Hand...oh man.

You're missing the D.

Normally I wouldn't point it out, but in this case (much like Chuck D) the D is for Dangerous.

The darkest timeline. All female names will be erased, simply referred to as "
Heir vessel A/B/C"
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Edit: Ahem, should probably stop spamming the player justice thread.

[Kevan Lyras]

Just wanted to add my opinion to two points, while I try to catch up with this massive thread:

- Tyron: I am against sending him to the wall. IC the fact that he confessed (even with some prompting from me) should weight in on this decision
- Benji: At most a tour of the damage caused, as suggested by Ben. I would be against any further punishment. In addition, I would be against any fostering of him anywhere else than House Marsten and also against a wedding with the horny Ms Bracken
-Generally, I like most of the suggested ideas (e.g. law has to be built up etc.)

[Ereth Redwain]

I would be against any fostering of him anywhere else than House Marsten

House Redwain is always another option lol

[Reader]

- Tyron: I am against sending him to the wall. IC the fact that he confessed (even with some prompting from me) should weight in on this decision

A true knight making a good point (or a Blackwood sympathiser massively biased by his marriage, all a matter of perspective).

[Ereth Redwain]

- Tyron: I am against sending him to the wall. IC the fact that he confessed (even with some prompting from me) should weight in on this decision

A true knight making a good point (or a Blackwood sympathiser massively biased by his marriage, all a matter of perspective).

Halfhearted confession and he is guilty of the crime, so what do you suggested other than the Wall.

[Reader]

- Tyron: I am against sending him to the wall. IC the fact that he confessed (even with some prompting from me) should weight in on this decision

A true knight making a good point (or a Blackwood sympathiser massively biased by his marriage, all a matter of perspective).

Halfhearted confession and he is guilty of the crime, so what do you suggested other than the Wall.

Say that to Kevan or Tyron's face IC - you lot can take an IC dimension to some of this thread if you want to note it as an IC objection.

Stir, stir stir.

Cackle.

[Ereth Redwain]

I'm not really one of the seven Houses and haven't been invited to do so by Yoren, so I'm an outsider IC, hence only intrest in the salted fields as my character knows some of that, and felt the need to help.

IC have no reason and would keep the comments to my self, but if asked or invited to help I would say something.

[Kevan Lyras]

Halfhearted confession and he is guilty of the crime, so what do you suggested other than the Wall.

IC, you do not know that he was visited by me to propose the confession and whether it is half-hearted you do not know either (IC), so this should not matter.
Not sure what a proper punishment would be, but both IC as well as OOC I would not believe his crimes to be severe enough to be sent to the wall

Edit: Ninja'd by Lord Redwain himself, on the IC/OOC comment, so disregard :;
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[Septon Arlyn]

But then raises the circular question of how do we not have Tyron influence Benji.

Theomore has suggested just ask him to mind his own domain and hope that he does not come to visit.

I've suggested exile, as exile can be revoked when Benji comes off age/think for himself and not as impressionable. I think that exiling him for 10 years might be the best bet

Others have suggested the wall... I'm ok with that as it gets him away from Benji

The Dulver's also suggested that fostering/ warding Benji might be an option, but that got as much air as a lead balloon

[Ser Jorah Holt]

Tyron sent to serve elsewhere for a while (ala exile). Maybe fighting at the stepstones :;
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[Kevan Lyras]

The exile idea would be fine with me, as would Theomore's idea. I don't think you'd want me to reiterate on my opinion regarding fostering / warding

[Reader]

Good creative solutions to a thorny problem, with the solutions appropriate to the setting. Blessed with wonderful players.

[Ereth Redwain]

Tyron can be sent to fight at the stepstones or serve under another lord away from House Blackwood (Again House Redwain is always happy to take in more knights lol).

[Theomore Tullison]

Didn't the fighting at the stepstones mostly end when Daemon stopped caring about it ten years ago? But the treaty mentions that the war is ongoing still, so something is happening there.

Tyron having the landed quality...that one is weaker than head of house, as it implies Tyron is simply put in charge of a part of House Blackwood's domains. Head of House is more of a hereditary thing. Exile for 10 years, which conveniently is when Benji reaches age of majority would also force them to find someone else to hold it. Exile from Blackwood lands and exile to the stepstones are too different matters entirely though.

[Reader]

Didn't the fighting at the stepstones mostly end when Daemon stopped caring about it ten years ago? But the treaty mentions that the war is ongoing still, so something is happening there.

Tyron having the landed quality...that one is weaker than head of house, as it implies Tyron is simply put in charge of a part of House Blackwood's domains. Head of House is more of a hereditary thing. Exile for 10 years, which conveniently is when Benji reaches age of majority would also force them to find someone else to hold it. Exile from Blackwood lands and exile to the stepstones are too different matters entirely though.

As noted previously, there's the odd bit of skirmishing still taking place there for my narrative purposes. Daemon's return to the political fold, then winter followed by the the interruption to iron supplies all play a part in cooling his canon interest. Well, that and a desire to preserve Dragons (which is an attitude he retains - don't expect constant airstrikes).

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