Re: Game Discussion

[Nathaniel Mason]

"They merely try to goad us for sport, My Lord, and Ser," Corrine cautions, seeing the escalation coming. "Don't feed them with your ire."

She shoots Nathan a disapproving look.

"I expected petty putdowns from the fool, Master Mason, but not you. Disappointing."

[Does chipping in here use my above results, or do I roll again?]

"Why, I believe he knighted Ser Loreia," says a new voice in the Frey's fray. "At great personal risk and courage."

Gwyneth on hearing Eoric's plight can't quite keep herself from trying to intervene, though doing so places her in the crossfire.

"The same Ser Loreia that you laud so highly," she went on to say to Nathan. Then to Lord Frey, "And that exemplifies our cause so well. Come now. Fun is fun, but we are all after all subjects of the same King, and men and women of the Riverlands. We have far more in common than we have differences."

Will vs Mushroom!: 4d6 7
Persuasion charm for Mushroom: 6d6k4 18

(orokoooooooooooooooooooooos!!)

"Hear hear!" Corrine calls after Gwyn. "Lady Drakeson speaks truly!"

First, Reader asked me to write something like that, so I obliged.

Second, are you ladies going to try and intervene in every Taunt and Incite in that thread, or just mine?

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Erm...just that one?

You can even do other taunts and incites if you want. I was just looking for an RP 'in' and that jumped out at me.

Sorry if that's crossing a line. OOC it's not my intention to try to interfere.

[Aerion Storm]

Sorry to butt in, guys! I saw the opening and couldn't resist taking it! Hee hee!

I'll have her move on quickly so you two can chat.

I don't mind extra company and interaction in the slighest. I'm just sorry I had to keep adding to my post 'cause y'all kept replying before I could hit 'send.'

[Jon Templeton]

(orokoooooooooooooooooooooos!!)

All I can see in my mind.:

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Nathan, I'm sorry if I've offended you, but I thought that we were allowed to rp in there. I did post that Corrine would be trying to keep the peace, and I was just trying to reflect that. I don't think anyone has any problem OOC with what you have written.

[Nathaniel Mason]

Nathan, I'm sorry if I've offended you, but I thought that we were allowed to rp in there. I did post that Corrine would be trying to keep the peace, and I was just trying to reflect that. I don't think anyone has any problem OOC with what you have written.

I wrote what I was required (against my better judgment) and had it approved by Reader first (as I always do in such situations). I tried to keep as much of the drama to NPCs. I was under the impression this was an Event thread. Normally in event threads other players do not generally try to make rolls against other players. At least, I have not seen such before.

[Baelon Drakeson]

Normally in event threads other players do not generally try to make rolls against other players.  At least, I have not seen such before.

I don't see any rolls having anything to do with Nathan?

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Nathan, I'm sorry if I've offended you, but I thought that we were allowed to rp in there. I did post that Corrine would be trying to keep the peace, and I was just trying to reflect that. I don't think anyone has any problem OOC with what you have written.

I wrote what I was required (against my better judgment) and had it approved by Reader first (as I always do in such situations).  I tried to keep as much of the drama to NPCs.  I was under the impression this was an Event thread.  Normally in event threads other players do not generally try to make rolls against other players.  At least, I have not seen such before.

I haven't rolled a single thing against you. And like I said, I am not in any way contesting the legitimacy of the post.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Normally in event threads other players do not generally try to make rolls against other players.  At least, I have not seen such before.

I don't see any rolls having anything to do with Nathan?

I think Gwyn rolled stuff.

[Baelon Drakeson]

That was the normal event stuff, and a charm roll to boot. It's not directed at Nathan in any way.

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

I made my normal roll. It's not a roll against you. I'd have specified that it was, if I'd meant it to be.

Gleep, I do apologize for the confusion there. If I need to make an edit, I can.

[Loreia]

perhaps people may want to discuss this with him

Hmm, Loreia might be interested. Concerned, maybe. I haven't looked yet to see if any threads have been formed for any other PCs attempting to find out.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

I just find it odd that soneone like Jorah would be oblique about a grievance.

[Aerion Storm]

Let's try and be careful to keep the incite rolls and nasty misunderstandings IC, not OOC, everybody.

[Loreia]

Hear hear.

[Luecian LongBow]

Honestly, I may be in the minority but its turned into a pretty interesting event now.  I also think it stayed pretty IC from the posts and true to past events in reactions etc.  There are a lot of really interesting characters and viewpoints in this game, part of what makes it so interesting!

[Baelon Drakeson]

[OOC: For the record, Baelon's tone was at no point threatening or swaggering. He really was just stating facts. Those predisposed not to care are free to ignore this.]

[Or just, y'know, put the tone into the writing. It's not hard to put descriptors in. You were stating facts that were threatening and unnecessary and arrogant. Own it or stop it.]

Baelon was stating the fact that saying inflammatory things in a crowd of soldiers on edge about going off to a war, who also happen to be armed to the teeth for said war, and who might think much more highly of Ser Eoric than Nathan (if they know anything of him at all) could lead to unnecessary bloodshed. Especially when Nathan's statements are a significant up-ending of the social order. Men might feel threatened by women in "their" roles, but that's nothing compared to how nobles feel when the fundamental thing that keeps them in power - that is, the oppression of the smallfolk - is threatened. It's why dictators jail or kill aid workers. It's not that they hate their people, it's that they love their power.

It's also something that Baelon has lived through - look at the conversation he was just having with Aerion. Like Nathan, Aerion is not nobility, not even a knight, and thus does not have the protections of law that nobles such as Baelon and Corrine have. Baelon was in the same situation, before he was knighted. He knows from first hand experience how dangerous it can be in that situation to piss off nobility. It's why, if I am not mistaken, Aerion isn't just afraid of angering a jealous husband with a pick for QoLaB. A father could take offense at a "mere bastard squire seducing his daughter."

It was phrased as it would be in Ser Eoric's rights to have him killed - not that Baelon could kill him and get away with it.
He stated that the law does not protect the smallfolk as it does nobles, not that Nathan was "worthless peasant scum" or some such.

I'm sorry, but I think you are reading tone that isn't there. It's your prerogative to decide whether or not Corinne does so IC. It wouldn't be the first time she completely misunderstands Baelon, and I'm sure it won't be the last. It adds depth and complexity to their relationship, which is cool.

OOC, though, if I say something like that, please just accept it.

[Benedict Marsten]

Rofl. An ingenious double bluff Jon.

I second that. Awesome.

[Benedict Marsten]

Hey now, who's talkin' wife?  I just need someone, at most, to give some flowers to without starting a fight.  

That's me out then. Damn. Ben, get better at jousting!

And here I had thought to hang up my spurs to let the younger bucks have at it. Well, back to the yard.

[Baelon Drakeson]

Psh, Ben's not *that* old. Actually, I don't know... how old is Ben, actually?

Baelon was born late in 106, a bit more than 9 months after the start of the first Stepstones war. that makes him barely more than 20, still quite a young 'un.

[Loreia]

Wow, that adds some perspective. Loreia was born in 99.

[Loreia]

Feels like everything was quieting down, I just walked right up and dropped a bomb right in the middle of the proceedings. Seems like to follow this dramatically, everyone's rolls and RP from there on out should be treated as happening before I verbally slapped Lord Frey.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Baelon, I don't have time for an essay. If you have to write one to explain something, then it's clearly not the simple matter you think it is, and it treads awfully close to gas-lighting. It's not the first time Baelon has insulted or disrespected someone by "just stating facts". If you don't want characters to think Baelon is a self-impressed arse, then don't play him like one.

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Would it be okay if I mediated a little? Y'all are adults and I figure you don't need it, but I have a foot on each side and I figure I might be able to give a little context? To soothe ruffled feathers?

Only if everyone's okay with it though.

[Reader]

Keep the IC tension IC - in fact, lots of it goes better if yo discuss it OOC: e.g. "We're at odd, even though we're both Black. I'm happy to risk an intrigue/duel, with a consequence of losing of X". Allows conflict within defined parameters.

OOC conflict is fine - I appreciate people don't want to have to read essays, but explanations are better than nothing and it's fun to know motives/explanations. Conflict loves an information vacuum. I think Baelon was sincerely trying to explain things, not gas-light anyone.

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