Re: AtMC – The battle below Bull’s Peak

by **Kevan Lyras** Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:58 pm

[Orders to come from subcommanders]

Status
Kevan 7/12
Sunguard 3/12, Disorganized: 1/4

by **Daveth Coldbrook** Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:26 pm

(Right. For the record, I am using Garret's stats from [url=here][/url], not the ones the PC-Garret was using. This means I have Warfare 3 Strategy 1B. I'm not rolling this turn, as I don't think it matters at this point.

Actually, I might as well roll for next turn.
[url=Turn 2 Initiative - AtMC][/url]: 4d6k3 8)

Garret gleefully orders the Company of the Morningstar he's in to charge the raiders attacking the Sunguard (D) (Difficulty 0, auto-succeed.)

(Now, I take it that the flanking rules are part of the advanced rules, so no +1B? However, since Garret is attached to this unit, and it's a Personal Guard, they keep the +1D even though he's a commander.)

[url=CotM - Charging Raiders D - R1][/url]: 6d6k5 19
Defence is 5, AR 2?
3 DoS (6+2=) 8 damage per DoS = 24-2 = 22 damage. Awww. 2 off utter destruction. Still, they're disorganised.

(I'm assuming it doesn't mean what it says when it says 'A unit is destroyed when the accumulated penalties from disorganiszation equal its endurance rank'. Because that would mean that any unit with Endurance 3 or less would be destroyed the first time they're disorganised, and take a -3 penalty. It means a unit with Endurance 3 will be destroyed when it's disorganised 3 times, right?)

by **Kevan Lyras** Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:29 pm

(I'm assuming it doesn't mean what it says when it says 'A unit is destroyed when the accumulated penalties from disorganiszation equal its endurance rank'. Because that would mean that any unit with Endurance 3 or less would be destroyed the first time they're disorganised, and take a -3 penalty. It means a unit with Endurance 3 will be destroyed when it's disorganised 3 times, right?)

That is the way I understand it as well, that is why I am counting up for the Sunguard (currently at disorganized 1/4). I guess 'the penalty' refers to the -1D for all tests

by **Reader** Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:30 pm

Kevan Lyras wrote:
(I'm assuming it doesn't mean what it says when it says 'A unit is destroyed when the accumulated penalties from disorganiszation equal its endurance rank'. Because that would mean that any unit with Endurance 3 or less would be destroyed the first time they're disorganised, and take a -3 penalty. It means a unit with Endurance 3 will be destroyed when it's disorganised 3 times, right?)
That is the way I understand it as well, that is why I am counting up for the Sunguard (currently at disorganized 1/4). I guess 'the penalty' refers to the -1D for all tests

[OOC: that's the way we'll run with it]

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:35 am

Next up: Jorah or Leifnar

Status
Kevan 7/12
Sunguard 3/12, Disorganized: 1/4

Raiders D: Disorganised
Clan Archers E: Disorganised
Clan Archers F: Destroyed

by **Yoren longshore** Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:27 am

[url=leifnarr][/url]: 4d6k3 17 shouts to the coldbrook guards: "
Charge you dogs! Let's break them once and for all."
The bodyguart takes the order and does an impressive charge followed by [url=death][/url]: 5d6 24 The clansmen feel the pressure increase.

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:31 pm

A few questions for clarification Yoren
Which unit did you command:
8 -Elite personal guard, the Company of the Morningstar (Coldbrook) Athletics 4, Endurance 4, Fighting 5 (Discipline 0, AR 6, Damage 6) / Movement 2 (Upgraded weapons) (+1D from attached hero, see Daveth's post)
9 -Veteran guards, the Company Grenward (Coldbrook) Awareness 4, Endurance 3, Fighting 4 (Discipline 6*, AR 3, Damage 4) / Movement 4

Did you charge or just attack? If you charge you'd have to drop one dice. If you ordered the first unit (which makes sense given you called them 'bodyguard' it would be 6d6k5, i'd say.

Also, which raider unit is your target? The one already disorganized or the other one? The first one you cannot be charging with the personal guard, as they are already next to the unit.

by **Ser Jorah Holt** Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:41 pm

If its the veteran guard, then Jorah is attached and that would even out the charge penalty

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:59 pm

Ser Jorah Holt wrote:If its the veteran guard, then Jorah is attached and that would even out the charge penalty

This is included in the calculation above (it would be the same as Daveth's roll: Fighting 5 ->
5d6 ->
Attached hero: 6d6 -->
Charge: 6d6k5

by **Daveth Coldbrook** Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:07 pm

I could be wrong, but don't you only get the +1D for an attached hero if either (a) the unit is a Personal Guard (b) the hero is not a commander?

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:12 pm

Ah you are right, Jorah won't provide a bonus as he is a commander. I read to fast, thinking Jorah refers to the personal guard unit. ( which is also the unit for which I showed the roll)

Sorry for the confusion...

by **Yoren longshore** Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:19 pm

Sorry for unclearness.
I should only kept 4 so the result is reduced to 21. Elite personal guard charges fresh raider unit. Sorry for the confusion folks!

by **Daveth Coldbrook** Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:25 pm

Whelp, well, that exposes the squishies.

Which one? [checks map] Oh, it's only Kreigar. Carry on!

by **Lady Corrine Marsten** Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:31 pm

Daveth Coldbrook wrote:Whelp, well, that exposes the squishies.

Which one? [checks map] Oh, it's only Kreigar. Carry on!

It's Corrine's hide if Kriegar and his men come off badly. Sad

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:04 pm

Yoren longshore wrote:Sorry for unclearness.
I should only kept 4 so the result is reduced to 21. Elite personal guard charges fresh raider unit. Sorry for the confusion folks!

No, you can keep 5. Actually you could roll a sixth and drop the lowest. The personal guard is headed by Gareth, so it should be the same roll as Daveth did before: Fighting 5 ->
5d6 ->
Attached hero: 6d6 -->
Charge: 6d6k5.
But 24 vs CD6 is already 4DoS, so it does not matter: 4*8 Damage= 32 ->
unit is destroyed (more than twice the units health)

(I hope I am right on this, otherwise Baelon, or somebody else, please comment on this as well)

Status
Kevan 7/12
Sunguard 3/12, Disorganized: 1/4

Raiders B: Disorganised
Raiders C: Destroyed
Clan Archers E: Disorganised
Clan Archers F: Destroyed

by **Ser Jorah Holt** Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:45 pm

Ser Jorah orders the mercenary archers to attack the remaining archers

[url=command mercenaries][/url]: 4d6k3 17
[url=mercenaries firing][/url]: 3d6k3 13
- thats 2 DOS so 3 damage after 3AR

ooc
I'm presuming that each unit can only act once on a turn

by **Yoren longshore** Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:51 pm

Ser Jorah Holt wrote:
ooc
I'm presuming that each unit can only act once on a turn

OOC:
a unit may act as many times as it wishes, but each test is 3 harder for the commander.

by **Reader** Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:05 pm

Ser Jorah Holt wrote:Ser Jorah orders the mercenary archers to attack the remaining archers

[url=command mercenaries][/url]: 4d6k3 17
[url=mercenaries firing][/url]: 3d6k3 13
- thats 2 DOS so 3 damage after 3AR

ooc
I'm presuming that each unit can only act once on a turn

[OOC: isn't that (Agility+2) x2DOS = (2+3) x2 = 10 damage - 3 AR = 7 damage? Mercenary archers have 3 agility]

by **Ser Jorah Holt** Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:11 pm

ooc
Was thinking hunting bows for some reason

by **Reader** Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:14 pm

Ser Jorah Holt wrote:ooc
Was thinking hunting bows for some reason

[OOC: no worries. Warfare damage is set by a different table. Smile

]

by **Baelon Drakeson** Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:53 pm

Status
Kevan 7/12
Sunguard 3/12, Disorganized: 1/4

Raiders B: Disorganised
Raiders C: Destroyed
Clan Archers E: Routed (off map)
Clan Archers F: Destroyed

(things are not looking good for our heroes... er, I mean, for the clans)

That brings us to the end of Round 1 Step 7 (orders).

Step 8 (2nd player actions)
Assuming neither Loreia nor Yoren wish to detach (what units are they in? those units would be at +1D for an attached hero)

Step 9: Standing orders
The only units that have been ordered (and thus might have a standing order) were ordered this round and thus do not activate in the Standing Orders step. (There are never standing orders in round 1)

Step 10: Repeat
I.e., on to Round 2 (starting with Step 4, initiative)

[url=Round 2 initiative][/url]: 3d6 15

Updated Map:

Code:: | A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | Key: ---HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| A - Clan Veteran Raiders (w/commander) 1 H H H A H H | | | | | | | | | | B - Clan Trained Raiders [ disorganized] ---HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| C - Clan Trained Raiders [ defeated] 2 H H D H | | | | | | | | | | | | D - Clan Trained Raiders ---HHHHHHHHH---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| E - Clan Trained Archers [ routed, off map] 3 H H | | | | | | | | | | | | | F - Clan Trained Archers [ defeated] ---HHHHH---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| 4 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 1 - Longshore Trained Archers ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| 2 - Mercenary Trained Archers 5 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 3 - Lyras Veteran Archers ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| 4 - Kriegar Veteran Scouts (w/Kriegar) 6 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 5 - Tullison Veteran Guerrillas ---WWWWWWWWFFFFFWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWFFFFFWWWWWWWWWWWW 6 - Lyras Veteran Infantry (w/Kevan) [ prev. disorg. once] 7 W W F F W W W W W W F F W W W 7 - Longshore Trained Raiders (w/Leifnar) ---WWWWWWWWFFFFFWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWFFFFFWWWWWWWWWWWW 8 - Coldbrook Elite Personal Guard (w/Garrett) 8 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 9 - Coldbrook Veteran Garrison (w/Jorah) ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| 9 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | H - Hills (slow movement, +1B vs. lower elevation) ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---| W - Water (slow movement) 10| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | F - Ford (no effect) ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---HHHHH 11| | | | | | | | | | | | | H H ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---HHHHHHHHH 12| | | | | | | | | 8 | B | | 9 H 7 H 5 H ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 13| | | | | | | | | | 6 H 4 H 1 H 2 H 3 H ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:35 pm

[OOC: There is still one order missing for round one, the one from Lord Kriegar (we have 7 orders per round). I will post that one later today, once I am back home]

by **Baelon Drakeson** Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:48 pm

Kevan Lyras wrote:[OOC: There is still one order missing for round one, the one from Lord Kriegar (we have 7 orders per round). I will post that one later today, once I am back home]

[OOC: oops! miscounted. Sorry! The above will apply after that, and the almost-guaranteed disorg/rout/defeat of another of 'my' units.]

by **Loreia** Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:13 pm

Morning Star elite. As Garrett's retainer, I am attached to the same unit he is attached to, or that was the way I chose to go when we started out, so I'm committing. Different story in the Faith Militant house event, though.

by **Kevan Lyras** Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:19 pm

[url=Order Golden Arrows (Discipline 9)][/url]: 4d6k3 11
[url=Attack Veteran Raiders][/url]: 4d6 10 vs CD4 =2DoS*5=10 - AR5=5 Damage
-->
1/6 Health

Status
Kevan 7/12
Sunguard 3/12, Disorganized: 1/4

Clan Commander: -1 Health (how much does he have in total?)
Veteran Raiders 1/6
Raiders B: Disorganised
Raiders C: Destroyed
Clan Archers E: Routed (off map)
Clan Archers F: Destroyed

Next round
[url=Initiative R2][/url]: 3d6 14 ->
Spend BoTA for +2 so we can go first once more

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