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Samurel Manderly
Ser Raynald Dulver
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Ser Jorah Holt
Benedict Marsten
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Dunstan Tullison
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Post by Reader Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:36 am

Yoren longshore wrote:I think the story was that you first moved the barrels and then Athelstan moved them back, though it's hard to keep track, with all these investigations going down...

That was indeed the story.

Who to believe? The anointed lod of house Tullison, knighted by Ser Jon Roxton himself or a kinslaying bastard?

Interview Dunstan and roll awareness or beat him in an intrigue to further test his sincerity, plus the evidence a couple of houses have their hands on... Rolling Eyes
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Post by Dunstan Tullison Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:42 am

I would've got away with it if it wasn't for you meddlin' kinslayers!

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Post by Septon Arlyn Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:34 pm

Sorry Dustin, pronouns are a b*tch, I was meaning Athelstan in the first he, but hey, the Septon gets flustered too. :;
): so many moving parts, so little time Smile if it comes up IC then I will offer you an apology
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Post by Reader Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:48 pm

Septon Arlyn wrote:Sorry Dustin, pronouns are a b*tch, I was meaning Athelstan in the first he, but hey, the Septon gets flustered too. :;
): so many moving parts, so little time Smile if it comes up IC then I will offer you an apology

As we'd say in l5r:

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Death duel!"
:;
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Post by Dunstan Tullison Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:58 pm

Inconceivable!

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Post by Athelstan Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:52 pm

Dunstan Tullison wrote:
Septon Arlyn wrote:Lady Corrine, did you ever speak to Dustin about the mines? He planted the evidence there? or did he find pots of wildfyre in the open and attempt to hide them in the mine?"

I like how this rumor just spread out of nowhere.

But.. I think everyone would see that Dunstan wouldn't really do that.. especially if the entire point of that wildfire was to frame the Blackwoods in some manner.

I think Athelstan suspected you, but wasnt going to confront you with out solid proof.

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Post by Reader Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:08 pm

D4 coming up soon (hopefully Saturday).

As you can see, the royal party arrives late and will expect you all to present evidence gathered so far.

I'll give you all a sneak peek at our the visiting party, in exchange I'd like each house to write a small speech together with whatever evidence you're presenting. You can hold stuff back if you're worried about suspects being spooked or word leaking out. Or you can use it for political grandstanding. Smile
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:49 pm

Wait, I thought we were getting a second week of Day 3? I have a whole bunch of stuff lined up that I had put on hold until the mine thread was resolved...
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Post by Kevan Lyras Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:50 pm

Saturday is in a week? So we still have time on day 3

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Post by Baelon Drakeson Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:51 pm

Right - pulled an all nighter last night, throws off the days a bit. :?
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Post by Athelstan Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:53 pm

It does happen regretfully

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Post by Reader Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:56 pm

Baelon wrote:Right - pulled an all nighter last night, throws off the days a bit. :?

Next you'll be claiming to be the son of Prince Daemon. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:59 pm

Psh. I may have problems, but not that kind.

A professor sent this article out to the department yesterday(actually yesterday, just double checked) - disturbing stuff, especially when I am considering signing up for 3-8 more years of it...
[url:2w7x14fj]http:
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com/547641/theres-an-awful-cost-to-getting-a-phd-that-no-one-talks-about/[/url:2w7x14fj]
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Post by Yoren longshore Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:26 pm

I've had some of my friends send it to me, and though it's an extreme example, it is still something that should be raised awareness around. Too many try to be the best. There should be a massive lift in mental care to help those that get run to the ground. You're perfect, regardless of one of your classmates wrote a better thesis :;
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Post by Ser Raynald Dulver Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:42 pm

Hey guys, Ive been wondering about common setting information that should be of knowledge of any local character, but that thanks to the configuration of these forums, gets a little too shattered and scattered through different threads so I was wondering if you guys could help me clarifying something.

About the player Houses....

Which one is the more powerful? The most influent? Which Lord (npc or pc) has the bigger reputation and why?

For instance, I believe House Coldbrook and Marsten are more powerful than Dulver and Longshore, but that is a guess at most, because I see no concrete way to confirm this. I also know that House Kytley is very poor thanks to its background, but I have no idea of which house or NPC is the wealthiest between us.

So what Im saying is that I cant visualize each house as I can, for instance, see clearly the differences and similarities between Stark and Lannister, Bracken and Blackwood, and perhaps Im not the only one. I know we have a Cast of Characters AND a forum for each House, but Im wondering if it is possible to make a central thread to better show the factions and their colors (their characteristics) briefly in a single place. This could help newbies like me a lot.
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Post by Athelstan Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:51 pm

Marsten is the most influential and arguably military powerful as a Status 5 House with 2 banner Houses.
Coldbrook middle ground perhaps equal in military terms to Longshores from their new Banner House
Longshore at least at the beginning the big military low influence and maybe the wealthiest or one of the richer Houses
Everyone else is now at some point in the middle.

At this point in "
Influence"
wise most Houses are close, but since 1 off season passed and I don't know if their numbers are the same as the book, it's hard to determine

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Post by Reader Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:59 pm

Raynald - will see what I can do on this when I get back. Some house information is secret or can be uncovered, but will try to make a small summary for the basics.
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Post by Ser Raynald Dulver Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:14 am

Reader wrote:Raynald - will see what I can do on this when I get back. Some house information is secret or can be uncovered, but will try to make a small summary for the basics.

Thank you Reader! I don't want to give you extra work so perhaps it could be something done collectively, and only the first topic of the thread could maintain all the updated information!
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Post by Gwyneth Drakeson Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:36 am

Super quick summary using only 'common knowledge' which may not always be perfectly accurate. It reflects my understanding of the 'word on the street':

Marsten:
- An old House of honor and prestige, once upon a time known for its adherence to traditions and customs and the faith of the Seven. Their succession crisis averted, but seemingly at the cost of that tradition. They field a respectable military, but much of their victory against the Clans came with the aid of an extensive alliance...it may be that the influence and diplomacy of the House is greater than its soldiery. They control rich lands and command respect in court even with their flouting of custom recently. Success is a powerful persuader of the dubious.
++ Wealth and influence
+ Military is strong, but largely tied up in defense against Clans;
needed help to push back

Tullison
A relatively new House, on the scale of Houses, the Tullisons enjoy the favor of the Tullys, who granted the first Lord Tullison title. Made rich by their abundant natural resources, they share in part the burden of protecting the realm from the incursions of Mountain Clans with House Marsten. They have a strong military and economy, but the lack of a long family history has limited their influence among other Houses. The efforts of Theomore Tullison however do imply that one man's influence can do much for one's House, regardless of tradition or history. Dunstan Tullison also enjoys unusual support from his smallfolk;
an esteem that he enthusiastically returns.
++ Strong military and economy, with less commitment of forces than Marsten has.
+ What influence they have diplomatically is largely an extension of their wealth, or the result of the relative goodwill of the Tullys...though the Tullisons and Tullys now find themselves at odds in the matter of Queen and Princess. What effect that has on their relationship remains to be seen.

Longhore:
- They suffer the guilt by association with their more coastal relatives, and many see them as only one or two steps up from pirates. That said, there are advantages to being a House with little to lose, and always people willing to traffic with them for the right price. Their military prowess is great, and they proved that as part of the Marsten alliance against the Clans very recently. Their new leader, a charismatic firebrand, has been making great efforts to rehabilitate the Longshore's image with other Houses, with some success.
++ They are ironborn, despite being in the Riverlands, and theirs is a violent path. Their warriors are strong and skilled.
+ That strong military often comes at the expense of their neighbors, and thus they suffer a bad reputation with most Houses. Yoren has been trying to change that.

Coldbrook:
- A relatively new House, created for an exceptional and exemplary warrior and strategist as a testament to his skill and experience, the Coldbrooks have a strong martial tradition, and until recently very little else. Saddled with a cursed castle in a dreary swamp, afflicted with a problem of succession in which the titular son was less favored than the natural born son of Lord Coldbrook, most lords and ladies clucked their tongues or rolled their eyes at the mention of the name. Now though, the succession has been made clear, and the new heir has been working overtime to extend Coldbrook's reach into areas of influence and economic growth that the elder Lord simply could not guide it to. Coldbrook troops served in the Marsten Alliance, and acquitted themselves surpassingly well, and a famed knight of the House seems poised to capture a post on the Kingsguard...so it seems the martial tradition remains strong as well. At least for now.
++ Coldbrook armies are very well trained. by and large. Their army is not huge, but only a fool would underestimate them.
+ They were suffering badly economically, though Daveth's efforts have begun to slowly reverse that damage.

Bartheld:
- A House known both for wealth, and the profligate expenditure of wealth, Bartheld has always counted friends and fellow revelers as the truth coin of the realm. The new Lord, feared by some to be a pennypincher who would cost the House the support of those who attended its grand parties, has not scaled back such entertainments as much as before...and yet more entertainments have simply moved to the 'private sector,' so to speak. House Bartheld remains a strong economical force, it's influence largely purchased, and its military consisting largely of mercenary units.
++ Though their wealth is not what it once was, it is still very strong. The new Lord is far more intelligence in his spending and investment, and it seems likely he will be able to rebuild the House's fortunes.
+ They buy their security with favors and gold...both with mercenary troops, and negotiated treaties to make sure enemies hesitate to strike openly.

Drakeson:
- Stealing the title of youngest House, the Drakesons have no tradition to guide them nor expectations to live up to. Their lands are cobbled together from lands captured from the Faith Militant and granted to the Coldbrooks, who in turn granted them to a famous knight and his lady wife after they played prominent roles in the great Tournament hosted by the Tullys a year prior. The Drakesons have spent their year in power consolidating their economy, and taking part in the Marsten Alliance with a formidable and unusual on this side of the sea unit of mounted archers. It is perhaps too soon to say what their specialty will be. Thus far they've attempted to have a respectable military, rapid economic growth, and agreements and influence with other Houses. But if they are overreaching, it's possible that in trying to juggle three balls, they could drop all of them.
++ They have had a strong start, with no obvious weak points.
+ However, they started from nothing at all, which means they are still behind most of the other Houses overall. It remains to be seen how long they can maintain their current pace.

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Post by Septon Arlyn Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:40 am

I think you might have combined Dulver and baratheld
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Post by Gwyneth Drakeson Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:52 am

...lol...damn.

Wow.

Yep!

Well, ok. I can fix that pretty easily fortunately. But now I have to look back at the Dulvers' stuff. lol

Sorry about that!

If it helps, I completely forgot to even mention the Tullisons at first! (^_^)
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Post by Dunstan Tullison Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:02 am

There are also a few disputed areas between the Houses

Market Town, Port Marill, Durrain's Forest, and a few others.

Those places are set up so basically almost every House has a claim to them, but they belong to no one atm.

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Post by Loreia Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:29 am

Great summaries, Gwyn!
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Post by Luecian LongBow Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:31 am

Gwyneth Drakeson wrote:
Dulver
Uh...things and stuff! I forgot! I'll fill stuff in! Promise! Smile

I quite like that summary! Very Happy I think the rest of them are just over detailed. :;
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Post by Gwyneth Drakeson Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:33 am

D'OH
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