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Samurel Manderly
Ser Raynald Dulver
Daveth Coldbrook
Lady Corrine Marsten
Gwyneth Drakeson
Ser Jorah Holt
Benedict Marsten
Loreia
Baelon Drakeson
Luecian LongBow
Ser Walton Dulver
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Dunstan Tullison
Septon Arlyn
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Yoren longshore
Nathaniel Mason
Theomore Tullison
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Post by Reader Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:49 pm

Nathaniel Mason wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:No Gods! No Masters! No Pants!

I support this! (Especially the last part.)

The sexiest atrocity in Westeros's history? Shocked
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Post by Samurel Manderly Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:50 pm

Lots of Eunuchs in the future of Westeros then, what with winter coming.

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Post by Ser Jorah Holt Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:55 pm

so is samurel joining one of the fights?

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Post by Samurel Manderly Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:00 pm

He shall be by his Lady's side, if something were to happen to Corrine, Ben might kill him... CORRINE MIGHT KILL HIM >
_>
... go Lady Stoneheart on his ass.

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Post by Nathaniel Mason Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:08 pm

Samurel Manderly wrote:He shall be by his Lady's side, if something were to happen to Corrine, Ben might kill him... CORRINE MIGHT KILL HIM >
_>
... go Lady Stoneheart on his ass.

So start trying to calm the people already. The calmer they are, the less likely they are to try and kill her.
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Post by Samurel Manderly Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:10 pm

Nathaniel Mason wrote:
Samurel Manderly wrote:He shall be by his Lady's side, if something were to happen to Corrine, Ben might kill him... CORRINE MIGHT KILL HIM >
_>
... go Lady Stoneheart on his ass.

So start trying to calm the people already. The calmer they are, the less likely they are to try and kill her.

I will, once I get home and Orokos works xD (it's not working at work it would seem >
_>
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:14 pm

Sam, you can totally justify backing up Corrine's words somehow. If your Persuasion is really bad, you can try something else that would count as trying to calm the people and herd them away from immediate danger.
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Post by Nathaniel Mason Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:16 pm

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Sam, you can totally justify backing up Corrine's words somehow. If your Persuasion is really bad, you can try something else that would count as trying to calm the people and herd them away from immediate danger.

His persuasion is almost as good as mine. Very Happy (...even if I did roll really crappy. I am under a lot of stress.)
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:24 pm

Nathaniel Mason wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Sam, you can totally justify backing up Corrine's words somehow. If your Persuasion is really bad, you can try something else that would count as trying to calm the people and herd them away from immediate danger.

His persuasion is almost as good as mine. Very Happy (...even if I did roll really crappy. I am under a lot of stress.)

I hadn't noticed.
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Post by Loreia Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:28 pm

I think Samurel should be present when Baelon informs Corrine what he learned, about hard evidence bringing Dorne into this mess. Those letters will have to be burned, and who better than Sam to disguise himself, sneak into Hugh's quarters, and burn them? Double disguise plus Act as a mysterious agent of the elusive puppeteers we know nothing about? :;
):

Snuff out the embers of war, or reveal it for extra distributed Glory. In short: does the truth matter?
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Post by Samurel Manderly Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:22 pm

Loreia wrote:I think Samurel should be present when Baelon informs Corrine what he learned, about hard evidence bringing Dorne into this mess. Those letters will have to be burned, and who better than Sam to disguise himself, sneak into Hugh's quarters, and burn them? Double disguise plus Act as a mysterious agent of the elusive puppeteers we know nothing about? :;
):

Snuff out the embers of war, or reveal it for extra distributed Glory. In short: does the truth matter?

Haha! Well I'm gonna be honest, I'm really quite lost at what you mean, but Sneaking and acting are in the mix so I like it

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Nathaniel Mason wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Sam, you can totally justify backing up Corrine's words somehow. If your Persuasion is really bad, you can try something else that would count as trying to calm the people and herd them away from immediate danger.

His persuasion is almost as good as mine. Very Happy (...even if I did roll really crappy. I am under a lot of stress.)

I hadn't noticed.

In L5R terms, I am 2k1 Away from Him on persuasion, which will be 1k0 by the time off-season is done (hopefully)

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Post by Theomore Tullison Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:42 am

So, re:

viewtopic.php?p=61429#p61429

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:[ooc: I actually would have posted right after Loreia did, Baelon, but I'm meeting with consternation behind the scenes about a particular detail, pertaining to your previous infodump. You may want to hold off.]

Well, from my perspective, this is expected in PbP, people post when they can post, and if that happens before you can post, well then their characters spoke first. Loreia blabbered where she shouldn't, then Baelon suddenly felt like giving a speech, all perfectly reasonable to assume that Baelon is faster off the trigger, but might be Corrine interrupts him. When this sort of thing happens it is best rolled with, and only way to ward against it is to put in an "
OOC reservation"
for incoming IC, though I think we all kinda expected a little round of quiet and/or short reactions, like arlyn, loreia and Daveth's reaction to Loreia, but who said that life is neat and orderly? Sometimes, you log off for the evening, only to find in the morning, that thread has been speeding past three pages of IC discussion where your character most certainly would not have stayed silent as it flowed past. That has happened in this game, and most likely will again if reader keeps it going.

IC text is kinda like arrows, once posted, it can't really be called back. And generally shouldn't as long as the IC context makes sense and the player didn't make an error in the writing that changed the context. Corrine could have every reason to be annoyed with Baelon bringing up that subject when she obviously had a mind to continue with the one she just started.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:53 am

Indeed, Captain Obvious. I was just making Baelon aware that, given our OOC conversation, he may want to reserve his speech for after my next post. It's none of your business.

Kindly answer my pm, so I can get posting again. Otherwise, I'll have to go with what I've got, which you really won't like.
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Post by Theomore Tullison Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:21 am

Yeah, couldn't this have blown up in like, 16 RL days from now?

Inclined to request that any talking/scheming/plotting/whatever concerning Theo and Pennytree is postponed for a couple of weeks due to OOC reasons.

At full activity, I would thrive at coping with this challenge, it could be all the fun I ever wished for Christmas. Provided we're all dedicated to story rather than "
winning"
a competition that shouldn't be a competition.

Though I suspect we're seeing the beginning of the end for Theo as a PC, Though I think at worst, from an IC point of view, this is a bump in the road, and Raff might have to run away to find some other spymaster to work for, because all Theomore ever did here was talk to people (and what he said could perfectly be explained away as something much less sinister than it was) and take some stuff off the ground to store in the Tullison camp along with other evidence he and Dunstan has collected. Raff and some sellswords hired by someone Theomore doesn't need to know the identity of did all the fun stuff. From an OOC point of view, however, it won't be fun playing Theomore if half the PC ensemble doesn't like him at all, limits roleplay opportunities. Just because he has plausible deniability for all the wrongs he did doesn't necessarily mean other PC's will be inclined to talk with him.
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Post by Kevan Lyras Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:30 am

Inclined to request that any talking/scheming/plotting/whatever concerning Theo and Pennytree is postponed for a couple of weeks due to OOC reasons.

I fully understand why you are asking for this, with your OOC break, but it is kind of hard to implement, without stopping IC time as well. Essentially, the assembly thread would have to be postponed for a coue of weeks as well.
Not sure what the best course of action is here...

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Post by Reader Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:34 am

I'll probably take over the Theomore stuff to save any PC v PC issues.

Various options beckon - I'll kick it around with Theo's player, and the character is largely offstage for the moment.
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Post by Yoren longshore Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:38 am

If nobody has proof, then I'd guess that Theomore won't be affected. This is where boyish charm will get you a long way :;
):
We could possibly postpone it a few weeks. (Assuming an ooc week is one day.) if Corrine just spent two days gathering evidence, and dealing with Ironrod/Bracken/Blackwood then all of a sudden Theomore would be back in action.

Especially when Theomore is still around to post a bit, two days is hardly any time...
I'm sure it'll be fixed.

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Post by Theomore Tullison Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:01 am

Theo will largely be fine with having some Marsten guards trailing him, so I don't think the assembly thread needs to debate that matter much.
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Post by Loreia Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:42 am

Theomore Tullison wrote:From an OOC point of view, however, it won't be fun playing Theomore if half the PC ensemble doesn't like him at all, limits roleplay opportunities. Just because he has plausible deniability for all the wrongs he did doesn't necessarily mean other PC's will be inclined to talk with him.
There's the rub, mate.
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Post by Reader Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:46 am

Loreia wrote:
Theomore Tullison wrote:From an OOC point of view, however, it won't be fun playing Theomore if half the PC ensemble doesn't like him at all, limits roleplay opportunities. Just because he has plausible deniability for all the wrongs he did doesn't necessarily mean other PC's will be inclined to talk with him.
There's the rub, mate.

Some of the OOC discussion is aimed at that. Smile
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Post by Reader Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:38 am

I like this post from Corrine (my emphasis below), positive IC reinforcement of an aide (and deserved OOC praise from stopping another diplomatic gaffe!) and linking it in with the family backgrounds that are so important to the world.

Good posts don't need to be 50 lines long (although I like those too!).

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:"
I am glad you were there to learn this, Sam. Thank you."


Corrine had often been discouraged from such words by her mother. Success was to be demanded, loyalty expected. They were not worthy of particular thanks. But Corrine did not want to be her mother.

"
Ser Steffon is the key to finding out who is ultimately responsible for Lord Blackwood's murder. I'd like you to dig deeper around him. Find out who he conspired with. Learn about the training yard, if you can, but focus on Vance. If you get a chance to take him red-handed safely, then do so. You have my blessing to do whatever is necessary to secure the right man for trial."
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Post by Reader Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:15 pm

viewtopic.php?f=189&
t=2079&
start=70


The assembly features some fine drama!

Ser Lorent Marbrand, a noted foe of Ser Baelon's, is absent but will doubtless hear about proceedings ana attempt to turn them to his advantage in the offseason for some fun scenes! Smile

For those less nerdy than me, Ser Lorent is a Black Kingsguard who regarded Baelon with contempt when Lord Drakeson won the melee at Riverrun. Rightly or wrongly, Ser Lorent regards Baelon (if he is indeed Prince Daemon's bastard) as a threat to Princess Rhaenyra's status. Go go black infighting!
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Post by Reader Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:19 pm

viewtopic.php?f=191&
t=2005&
start=50#p59023


Putting down raiders Dulver style. Twisted Evil

Sure to inflame tensions.

Ser Walton Dulver wrote:[just came to write that second Infantry's attack was supposed to be charge Razz as stated: Glory split between Ser Theomore Tullison and Ser Walton Dulver, I believe even IC it was done right way to show who should take the glory :;
): ]


As battlefield were slowly calming down, with remnants of rebel army being slaughtered, Ser Garred moved back to shadow, leaving glory to those, who deserved it most that day: Ser Walton Dulver and Ser Theomore Tullison. War horns were proclaiming great victory of allied houses and wine was pouring...

[none of rebels will be able to tell frightening story about allied houses' wrath, i'm afraid xD it becomes the rule, so watch out to not let Ser Walton Dulver to take his sword out ;
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Changes:
[url=infantry][/url]: 1d6 5
[url=archers][/url]: 1d6 3
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:20 pm

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Kindly answer my pm, so I can get posting again. Otherwise, I'll have to go with what I've got, which you really won't like.
I had a night of no internet access, I left more or less immediately after my post. Apologies for the delay.

Yoren longshore wrote:If nobody has proof, then I'd guess that Theomore won't be affected.
Since when has proof mattered to the Westerosi legal system? Did lack of evidence save Mycah the Butcher's son?
We're all getting too hung up on modern notions of justice rather than those in play in the setting.
Tribunals? Inquests? Pass judgements (or have Reader use Corrine as a mouthpiece to do so to avoid PvP).
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Post by Reader Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:25 pm

Baelon wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Kindly answer my pm, so I can get posting again. Otherwise, I'll have to go with what I've got, which you really won't like.
I had a night of no internet access, I left more or less immediately after my post. Apologies for the delay.

Yoren longshore wrote:If nobody has proof, then I'd guess that Theomore won't be affected.
Since when has proof mattered to the Westerosi legal system? Did lack of evidence save Mycah the Butcher's son?
We're all getting too hung up on modern notions of justice rather than those in play in the setting.
Tribunals? Inquests? Pass judgements (or have Reader use Corrine as a mouthpiece to do so to avoid PvP).

I'm happy to handle the Theomore stuff to avoid PvP.

Theomore and I are discussing things OOC. Smile
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