Re: Game Discussion

by **Benedict Marsten** Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:22 pm

Loreia wrote:Eat it, Addam!

Exactly. Poor choices have come back to burn him, literally.

by **Reader** Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:24 pm

Look out for redemptive/fitting death scenes and NPC reaction tomorrow. Smile

Gratified to see Addam was at least remembered, albeit as the jerk he was. Rolling Eyes

I suppose it means he achieved something as an NPC - at least you felt something for him. Indifference is the worst result.

by Marq Mooton Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:44 pm

I think Dunstan would want to try and save someone. Dunno who else we're missing?

Anyway, Forrest Frey is the cousin of Benjen and Floreta, and since he looks like [url=this][/url] four or so years from now, probably below 30 now.

by **Reader** Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:45 pm

Marq Mooton wrote:I think Dunstan would want to try and save someone. Dunno who else we're missing?

Anyway, Forrest Frey is the cousin of Benjen and Floreta, and since he looks like [url=this][/url] four or so years from now, probably below 30 now.

Several people haven't posted, but such is the nature of PbP. They can gain glory from participation, but as noted in the event, the bodies have hit the floor now.

by **Reader** Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:59 pm

viewtopic.php?f=189&
t=2079&
start=100#p62327 - Daveth Coldbrook's excellent summary of the evidence against Maester Arran

viewtopic.php?f=189&
t=2079&
start=100#p62337 - Maester Arran's confession (trimmed a bit, as in my notes he goes in to his backstory and motivation a bit more, but the Coldbrooks had already discovered it and Daveth remarked on it, so it would have looked weird to repeat the point)

He committed an atrocity, but from a desire to end suffering and is a chained maester.

Unpicking the mystery is only part 1. Deciding the appropriate punishment is the hard part.

by **Loreia** Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:20 pm

Honestly I feel a little bad for him. After all, he was only guilty of misogyny. And being butthurt.

by **Gwyneth Drakeson** Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:03 pm

You're not talking about Arran here, right? Smile

by **Septon Arlyn** Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:08 pm

I think she was talking about dyana's challenger

by **Loreia** Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:41 pm

Gwyneth Drakeson wrote:You're not talking about Arran here, right?

Septon Arlyn wrote:I think she was talking about dyana's challenger

NOT talking about Arran. Should have quoted.

I don't know what to do with Arran. He wanted to help, but why didn't he just advise his lord, or Myles, to send people to deal with this? He somehow knew what was happening. I would like to know whether he acted on impulse, or if he pleaded with his lord/regent to act. After all, that is his duty as a maester. Either he acted rashly and condemned an entire village, or he was pushed to it by his lord's/regent's neglect.

He must be punished, and I agree that he should die, but should we condemn his behavior as rash with no further scrutiny? We should determine the answers to the above now at the assembly. If he felt like there was nothing else he could do, he would need an appropriate witness, or evidence(such as a journal), before we start pointing the finger.

We need to roll Awareness(Empathy) cranked to 11 versus Arran. Not sure if, given the situation, if we could unilaterally divide assists and coordination among the one or few present who are the best at it. We didn't come to this assembly all together, thus we most likely couldn't assist/coordinate with characters from other houses.

Regardless, our most appropriate response right now is to have him locked up somewhere while we figure out what to do with him, whether we've agreed on a suitable punishment in the meantime or quietly tabled it for later.

by **Gwyneth Drakeson** Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:50 pm

You know, I don't think his motive really plays into this much.

He might have been motivated out of a twisted sort of compassion, but mass murder is still mass murder. You don't get brownie points or sentence reductions because you 'were only trying to help.' Smile

by **Septon Arlyn** Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:52 pm

I'm agreeing that he should die. Just about the only thing is that it's a shame to waste a Maester, those guys are expensive. And the watch never had enough Masters

by **Lady Corrine Marsten** Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:33 am

Marq Mooton wrote:Anyway, Forrest Frey is the cousin of Benjen and Floreta, and since he looks like [url=this][/url] four or so years from now, probably below 30 now.

Y hallo thar!

by **Gwyneth Drakeson** Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:11 am

Septon Arlyn wrote:I'm agreeing that he should die. Just about the only thing is that it's a shame to waste a Maester, those guys are expensive. And the watch never had enough Masters

They'd be nuts to ever trust him in their ranks though. Literally nuts. Lip-bobbling, gobbledegoo-speaking, nutcases.

by **Nathaniel Mason** Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:45 am

Not sure whether Blackbuckle was a Hamlet (20-1000 people) or a small town (1000-4000 people).

Most villages run from 300-700 people. That's quite a stack of corpses.

Arryn could be sent to the Wall.

I am fairly confident he would not make it.

by **Septon Arlyn** Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:55 am

I'm in agreement with Nathan. Although IC I'm not good with what would happen. OOC I will cheer him on

by **Loreia** Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:32 am

I like the idea of stripping him of his chains as a formality before sentencing him. There might be a representative of the Citadel under the royal banner. Or, failing that, we can simply send a raven. In a few days we should get a reply, or a representative in a week, when it would become part of the epilogue and in which case Reader would tell us whether we could have him stripped of his chains in advance of a reply.

by **Reader** Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:40 am

We know being stripped of your chain is possible from the novels (Qyburn), so I'd consider it a formality if the investigators press for it. As Loreia suggests a raven can go to Oldtown and back between now and the epilogue.

by **Loreia** Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:24 am

Revised description of my dog in my Cast entry. The intent from the beginning was that he looked similar to a badger by color and stripe, and I hope that this is now all the more so after my revision.

by **Reader** Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:04 pm

It's really come to something when the voices for clemency are from Ser Theomore and a crazed fire worshipping priest.

Interested to see the fate of our maester, and for once I just get to sit back and watch.

by Samurel Manderly Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:12 pm

Such a waste of a good poisoner...

by **Septon Arlyn** Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:16 pm

Samurel Manderly wrote:Such a waste of a good poisoner...

well he was caught so he must not have been THAT good Shocked

:;
):

anyways, Septon Arlyn is deeply disturbed by blackbuckle, not quite willing to poison him, but it would not take much to convince him. (TN 12)

a simple death by sword, that is were he is sitting now so its the easiest to convince him of (TN 9)

where as granting him clemency of going to the wall, a much more difficult decision to argue (TN 15)

one which gets the most DOS gets his swing vote :;
):

by **Kevan Lyras** Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:18 pm

Is it ok for you guys if I comment in the assembly thread even though I never introduced myself so far?

by **Benedict Marsten** Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:22 pm

Kevan Lyras wrote:Is it ok for you guys if I comment in the assembly thread even though I never introduced myself so far?

You are there you spoke on page 3. Most everyone knows you anyway.

by **Septon Arlyn** Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:24 pm

Go for it, the more debate and discussion we get better I feel �

by **Kevan Lyras** Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:29 pm

Benedict Marsten wrote:
Kevan Lyras wrote:Is it ok for you guys if I comment in the assembly thread even though I never introduced myself so far?

You are there you spoke on page 3. Most everyone knows you anyway.

Oh, ehm so I did Embarassed

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