Re: Game Discussion

by **Yoren longshore** Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:50 pm

Sorry, I forgot Sam, but aren't you a house of your own?

by Samurel Manderly Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:54 pm

Yoren longshore wrote:Sorry, I forgot Sam, but aren't you a house of your own?

I... technically no? as a spare I don't really have much say in what House Manderly does!

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:57 pm

Yoren longshore wrote:Sorry, I forgot Sam, but aren't you a house of your own?

Samurel is sworn to house Marsten as an aide! As he notes, he doesn't have much influence on Manderly policy, although you guys met two important canon Manderlys in story 1.

Ser Kevan Lyras is from one of House Marsten's banner houses but is a younger son, elevated to status as Marsten's Knight of the Gate on merit. An advantageous marriage to the higher status Sofia Blackwood has furthered his advancement, albeit the circumstances of the marriage are sorrowful.

by **Kevan Lyras** Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:17 pm

Yes, my brother is Lord Lyras, but mechanically, I am just a retainer of House Marsten.

by Marq Mooton Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:19 pm

Reader wrote:
Yoren longshore wrote:Sorry, I forgot Sam, but aren't you a house of your own?

Samurel is sworn to house Marsten as an aide! As he notes, he doesn't have much influence on Manderly policy, although you guys met two important canon Manderlys in story 1.

Ser Kevan Lyras is from one of House Marsten's banner houses but is a younger son, elevated to status as Marsten's Knight of the Gate on merit. An advantageous marriage to the higher status Sofia Blackwood has furthered his advancement, albeit the circumstances of the marriage are sorrowful.

As if Theomore never hurt any of those NPC's....

by **Gwyneth Drakeson** Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:22 pm

Surely he can't have hurt -everyone-. I'm sure I can think of a big list of NPCs he hasn't worked against the interests of, or personally brought unspeakable horror to. Just a minute here...

...

Neutral

Okay! Who wants pie?!

by **Kevan Lyras** Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:24 pm

Well, there are all the npcs reader has not introduced yet. As long as he introduces fresh meat in each story, Theomore is fine Razz

by **Benedict Marsten** Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:31 pm

Marq Mooton wrote:Well, at least most of Marsten, I am assuming.

I only ask because Ben has defended you once and believes he has an idea of what you were up to from their talk and evidence and rumors.

No one has proof of any harm done previously by Theo. Sophia was willing and the Manderly never proved poison. :;
):

Don't count house Marsten out yet.

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:54 pm

That's how you do cohorts: Smile

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by **Benedict Marsten** Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:01 pm

Pertaining to to the Assembly thread:

Marq's Ironrod speech gives away that we know there was a replica. House Marsten is in the middle of running down the man who gave the order. Putting out that we know about the replica and other like info will be leaked. This may botch our attempts at getting the man at the top

I don't expect everyone to copy and paste their notes, but at least discuss stuff that may interfere with others plans. For instance the Maester showdown did not have to be rushed and done at the assembly, but if you brought up that you had leads and a suspect anyone else working that case could have came to you for further advice or to help.

With the above example I would have liked to presented that House Marsten knows who they culprits are but needs to keep things under wraps until we make our move. This would hopefully have been left more abstract by Marq in his post to Ironrod to reflect this.

by Marq Mooton Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:09 pm

Might retcon, Tullisons knows more than Marq lets on, though.

Though that's what could happen when you give the job to a teenager.

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:19 pm

Marq Mooton wrote:Might retcon, Tullisons knows more than Marq lets on, though.

Though that's what could happen when you give the job to a teenager.

Minor retcons on this kind of thing allowed if desired.

Please flag final decision here.

by **Benedict Marsten** Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:49 pm

Baelon wrote:"
No, it will not sit right with her..."

Best to emphasize Corrine - it would not do to let Ben's carelessness undermine her.
"
...but that's not really my problem, now is it? As I said, she will have to trust me to spend it appropriately. If she cannot do so - well, again, that's not really my problem."

What did I do now?! Rolling Eyes

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:03 pm

Benedict Marsten wrote:
Baelon wrote:"
No, it will not sit right with her..."

Best to emphasize Corrine - it would not do to let Ben's carelessness undermine her.
"
...but that's not really my problem, now is it? As I said, she will have to trust me to spend it appropriately. If she cannot do so - well, again, that's not really my problem."

What did I do now?!

Rofl. Presumably a miss-reading of my commentary as Ben overreaching?

It's actually linked to you making status rolls and performing well in warfare and personal combats, linked to your personal goal. A little nod in the direction of Ben growing in to his role, following on from similar notes in the mountain clan campaign.

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:51 pm

Pfft, somebody flunk my "
Remembering the Dead"
tests so I can inflict some influence penalties/throw another gauntlet. Evil or Very Mad

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:01 pm

Slight tweak to D5's event rules, eased the requirements a little to match my original intent.

Flagging this here as it may affect (and in this effect :;
): ) destiny point spending decisions.

"
- Pass all stage 2 rolls = +1 glory"

by **Baelon Drakeson** Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:49 pm

Benedict Marsten wrote:For instance the Maester showdown did not have to be rushed and done at the assembly

In general I agree with the sentiment of your post, but this bit was wrong. There had already been accusations made of House Coldbrook withholding evidence, combined with the demand to share evidence meant that we had to move forward with it or face massed protest from various parties, and just going to House Marsten with it could have soured reactions to you folks - both houses have family and political ties to the Blackwoods. Moving forward then was an IC necessity to help restore trust between the houses. Luckily we got confirmation of the Maester's guilt, but not until after we committed to going forward.

Reader wrote:
Benedict Marsten wrote:
Baelon wrote:"
No, it will not sit right with her..."

Best to emphasize Corrine - it would not do to let Ben's carelessness undermine her.
"
...but that's not really my problem, now is it? As I said, she will have to trust me to spend it appropriately. If she cannot do so - well, again, that's not really my problem."

What did I do now?!

Rofl. Presumably a miss-reading of my commentary as Ben overreaching?

It's actually linked to you making status rolls and performing well in warfare and personal combats, linked to your personal goal. A little nod in the direction of Ben growing in to his role, following on from similar notes in the mountain clan campaign.

heh, I had originally written it as 'overreaching', but decided that was a step too far. It's more an internal critique that you are letting the men treat you as the head of house, thereby unintentionally undermining Corrine. Even that is likely a significant exaggeration of what has been happening, but I felt it was in line with Baelon's current feelings towards the two of you.

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:50 pm

Ever the hot-tempered "
Targaryen"
Prince, IC at least. Smile

by **Reader** Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:26 pm

A very high quality opening to this thread, enjoyed the IC reaction to the other PCs' queasiness about the apt punishment for Maester Arran both men recommended.

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by **Yoren longshore** Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:47 pm

Request: Could D9 last two days? As many things will be decided by the PCs then?

by **Ereth Redwain** Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:45 pm

Another Dulver, I might convince the Linnister to join my tiny House.

by **Reader** Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:37 am

Yoren longshore wrote:Request: Could D9 last two days? As many things will be decided by the PCs then?

Current plan is for d7 to run two weeks to allow for final negotiations/holiday period disruption, but open to changes. Keen to keep momentum and wrap up this story, but also to allow for holiday period.

by Marq Mooton Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:04 am

Says in the schedule that day 8 is where we are deciding things? Can still do investigations and such on day 7?

by **Reader** Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:23 pm

Marq Mooton wrote:Says in the schedule that day 8 is where we are deciding things? Can still do investigations and such on day 7?

Almanac has verdict on d7, departure on d8. Apologies if earlier commentary differed.

by **Nathaniel Mason** Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:39 am

So, I have been doing some reading about the Blackwood/Bracken feud. I had been under the impression that the conflict had started about five hundred years ago. Looks like I am wrong. The conflict seems to have started at least five hundred years before the Andal Invasion (and more likely closer to a thousand). Which means they have hated each other for about five thousand years, give or take an eon, rather than five hundred.

That's an awfully long time for two people to hate each other.

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