Re: Mechanical discussion

by **Ser Walton Dulver** Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:46 pm

wait, wait, wait... So, having Cunning 2, I can add another 2 dices to disguise roll over there?

by **Theomore Tullison** Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:48 pm

Disguise is deception, but yeah.

by **Ser Walton Dulver** Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:50 pm

Deception is 2, Cunning is 2, so if Disguise is Deception, then Disguise is also Cunning. or something Wink

by **Darron Greyjoy** Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:53 pm

Ser Walton Dulver wrote:wait, wait, wait... So, having Cunning 2, I can add another 2 dices to disguise roll over there?

I was just using cunning as a example. I think it calls out deception with the spec disguise.

And thanks for the clarification wasn't sure if I got to keep my roll. Still wasn't certain after reading the rule book.

by **Darron Greyjoy** Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:49 pm

So VPs. Can I get a explanation as to what they do here? I have read through the book and see they are tied to complex intrigues. I am not currently aware of any that i'm a part of so would that mean if I earned a VP I wouldn't be able to keep it? Also will VPs be earned exclusively by picking a side between the greens and blacks?

by **Theomore Tullison** Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:20 pm

In the carnival event, VP here means VP in a complex intrigue, presumably tied to personal goal, but I suppose it might be donated to house objective also?

Could mean green/black point in some other places though.

by **Baelon Drakeson** Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:00 pm

Darron Greyjoy wrote:So VPs. Can I get a explanation as to what they do here? I have read through the book and see they are tied to complex intrigues. I am not currently aware of any that i'm a part of so would that mean if I earned a VP I wouldn't be able to keep it? Also will VPs be earned exclusively by picking a side between the greens and blacks?

A good question. Each character has a "personal goal", maximum 1 per story. It is player determined with Reader approval. Typically it will take some number of Victory Points to achieve, with VPs awarded for things like getting training, doing research, participating in fights/war battles, and really anything else appropriate to goal. Goals are typically typically a benefit, but other things are possible too. Basically, it's a way to guide your character development through in-game activities. They are similar to House Objectives, but are personal to each character - and that can lead to interesting conflicts and choices. What is best for your own personal goal may not be what is best for your house objective, or for the event you are participating in, etc.

Theomore Tullison wrote:In the carnival event, VP here means VP in a complex intrigue, presumably tied to personal goal, but I suppose it might be donated to house objective also?

Could mean green/black point in some other places though.

Given that it is awarded under the title "Personal Ambition" I suspect it is meant for personal goals. I suppose Reader might allow it to be used for something else, but I suspect that would probably be on a case-by-case basis.

by **Theomore Tullison** Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:19 pm

I think Daveth means G/B point rather than VP in this post though?

https://dragonsdance.rpg-board.net/t3115-oocgeneral-information#93438

by **Nathaniel Mason** Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:39 am

Daveth Coldbrook wrote:Unlike at the tourney at Riverrun, we're allowing preparation. Because this event is designed to be welcoming for everyone, overtly political songs will be docked points.

Knowledge TN (9) to select an appropriate song and memorize it well enough to perform. +1B per degree of success, -1D for failure.
Persuade (Charm) TN (12) to actually sing it.
1st: 20GD, +1 TP
2nd: 10GD
3rd: 5GD

Can I assume that the 'take your time' for preparation is for the Knowledge roll only? Not the actual Persuade (Charm) to sing it? Can you clarify what a TP is?

by **Ser Walton Dulver** Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:41 am

Just curious- were ever mentioned costs of dragonbone items somewhere?

by **Darron Greyjoy** Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:44 am

Ser Walton Dulver wrote:Just curious- were ever mentioned costs of dragonbone items somewhere?

Im having vague memories to reading its equivalent to valyrian steel

by **Theomore Tullison** Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:45 am

Maybe. Though I think those count as extraordinary items, which likely require something like a personal goal or downtime DoS to be made available. It was also a possible reward from black/green mechanics of chapter 1 as I recall.

by **Ser Walton Dulver** Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:06 am

Sounds like extraodinary rank, but never saw discussion on that. Walton is not an archer, anyway

by **Reader** Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:09 pm

Dragonbone needs to be earned in play like Valyrian steel. Pleased to see various story threads pay off here.

Some PCs now have Valyrian daggers, a sword was returned to House Kreigar and bows have been won and gifted. Offseason work, intrigues and so on have led to these. Surprised none of you have bushwhacked Ser Warrick Wheaton for his. That said, a hedge knight that manages to keep hold of a Valyrian steel sword must be pretty special...

by **Baelon Drakeson** Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:12 pm

I'm guessing extraordinary armor is in the same category?

by **Reader** Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:15 pm

Baelon Drakeson wrote:I'm guessing extraordinary armor is in the same category?

Yup. Another previous prize.

by **Theomore Tullison** Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:41 pm

Reader wrote:Dragonbone needs to be earned in play like Valyrian steel. Pleased to see various story threads pay off here.

Some PCs now have Valyrian daggers, a sword was returned to House Kreigar and bows have been won and gifted. Offseason work, intrigues and so on have led to these. Surprised none of you have bushwhacked Ser Warrick Wheaton for his. That said, a hedge knight that manages to keep hold of a Valyrian steel sword must be pretty special...

Well, since it looks like we're all assembled together in phase 1....can I call dibs? Twisted Evil

by **Reader** Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:04 pm

Look forward to taking on a man you know nothing about with the wits to keep hold of such a prize. Your funeral.

by **Theomore Tullison** Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:08 pm

Pffft, you just want to discourage us making more work for you...

Anyhow, how he got it and keeps holding on to it is more interesting than the sword itself.

by **Loreia** Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:35 pm

wrong thread:

by **Ser Walton Dulver** Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:55 pm

chance for signatures to come back? It was easier when I saw short description of other PCs Embarassed

by **Aerion Storm** Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:47 pm

At what rate to (a) Destiny points, and (b) "once per day" things recover, on here?

by **Reader** Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:57 pm

Destiny points - recover at the end of the story, sometimes with an interim refresh if there's a sunny day etc (for a weird, Lord of the Rings style crossover). Wink

"Once per day" - normally 1/offseason or once per day as previous stories were dailies. However, this time it's once per phsae.

by **Aerion Storm** Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:16 pm

Oof. Okay. If I used a "once per day" and a Destiny Point, I had a 50% chance of getting the +1 glory from the Prayer event.

Don't think I can afford to lose both things, though, not when it has odds that crummy of working.

by **Nathaniel Mason** Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:28 pm

Aerion Storm wrote:Oof. Okay. If I used a "once per day" and a Destiny Point, I had a 50% chance of getting the +1 glory from the Prayer event.

Don't think I can afford to lose both things, though, not when it has odds that crummy of working.

Glory is not all that useful anyway. +1b to a roll that you have to declare beforehand or +1 Stat Point to a House (usually wealth). Nathan gives them away as wedding presents.

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