Re: (D3 - LM) Search for Iron

[Ser Jorah Holt]

Jorah was suspicious of what was going on, keeping an eye on the situation and ready to intervene if need be.

[url=Knowledge check][/url]: 2d6k2 9
[url=Awareness][/url]: 3d6k3 8

"
Lady Corrine, House Marsten was placed in charge of this investigation and peacekeeping. I believe your input will be required momentarily."

[Baelon Drakeson]

Exchange 1
"
A trial by combat? Were you ennobled when I wasn't looking? I would be well within my rights to kill you where you stand just for the mere suspicion that you interfered with the investigation."


[url=Exchange 1 Persuasion(Intimidate) vs. Athelstan][/url]: 4d6+2-2 7 2#1d6 3 6 ->
9, 1 DoS, 3-7DR = 0 influence

Intrigue Stats
[url=Initiative][/url]: 4d6+2 22 (Baelon, Athelstan)
Objective: discussed by PM
Disposition Dislike (-2 Persuasion, +1 Deception, 5DR)
Intrigue Defense: 9
Composure: 9/9
Frustration: 0

[OOC: TN decrease makes my knowledge test a success, huzzah!
Athelstan's Status(breeding) gives him a one-time +1b.

This could take a while...

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

"
Athelstan, just tell him what you did. Trying to withold the truth is just going to make things worse. We're all supposed to be on the same side here. You're not entitled to a trial by combat, and if you've been lying to me too about what you know, you would do well to come clean now, lest I add my arrows to theirs."


[ooc: Can this be a Persuasion (Convince) assist to Baelon? If not, it'll just be scenic.]

[Reader]

"
Athelstan, just tell him what you did. Trying to withold the truth is just going to make things worse. We're all supposed to be on the same side here. You're not entitled to a trial by combat, and if you've been lying to me too about what you know, you would do well to come clean now, lest I add my arrows to theirs."


[ooc: Can this be a Persuasion (Convince) assist to Baelon? If not, it'll just be scenic.]

OOC: you can assist etc but not influence.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

"
Athelstan, just tell him what you did. Trying to withold the truth is just going to make things worse. We're all supposed to be on the same side here. You're not entitled to a trial by combat, and if you've been lying to me too about what you know, you would do well to come clean now, lest I add my arrows to theirs."


[ooc: Can this be a Persuasion (Convince) assist to Baelon? If not, it'll just be scenic.]

OOC: you can assist etc but not influence.

[ooc: What's the difference? I'm not looking to take part in the intrigue itself.]

[Theomore Tullison]

[You would need to enter the intrigue to assist in a mechanical way. My commentary from the peanut gallery is let's keep this mano on mano.]

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

[You would need to enter the intrigue to assist in a mechanical way. My commentary from the peanut gallery is let's keep this mano on mano.]

[ooc: Since Baelon doesn't actually have any known arresting powers, it won't stay that way for long. This dispute needs to be kicked up higher, and it's not a 'mano' who is de facto in charge. :;
): )

[Athelstan]

"
Go ahead and shoot then"
turning to face her for a moment "
I have been honest, shared all I know with you and everyone that asks, even offer to guide people and show what and were, never hiding always forward, but what's the point the first thing that happens you throw me to the wolves and treat me like I lied to you, the so be it no point on talking to you if that is what you think, when I told you what I found in the mines, what I did and that I took the wild fire to prevent it's miss use, but than again obviously also helping you find even more evidence I might have missed makes me guilty of something irregardless, so shoot then"


Turning to face Baelon

Intrigue
Initiative: 3d6k3 18
Status (breeding): 4d6k3 13 +1B (one use)
Disposition: Malicious -6 Persuasion, +3 Deception, 7DR
Intrigue Defense: 8
Composure: 9/9
Frustration: 0

"
Well if it takes"
starts counting people "
23 men and a woman for lord Baelon to grow a pair of balls, and talk to me under death threats"
he laughs "
All I see is a coward that has always needed the upper hand to beat anyone, of course if you weren't such a coward you could just get off your horse, and come do it your self, which I doubt"


Putting his more menacing face and a grin to accompany it "
I would challenge you, but you will lack the balls as the coward that you are, or we can be civilized and ask me for the information and we all cooperate and get on with the investigations that can help keep the peace and restore the mines to serve the king"


[url=Intimidate (+1B from Breeding)][/url]: 5d6k3 13
1DoS 3dmg 5DR = 0 dmg

[Yield offer as before, of course can wait to a counter offer]
Queer!

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

"
It's not what you think, Athelstan,"
Corrine retorts, then turns her gaze to Baelon;


"
So what is the meaning of this display? You don't have the authority to arrest him. If you suspected him of tampering, why not come to me first? Throwing egos around is not helping. I have heard that Lord Dunstan may have tampered with evidence too. Are you going to point arrows at him?"

[Athelstan]

Athelstan only points at Ser Jorah "
He was there at the Green Door Inn, Dunstan didn't wanted to say much of what he found here in the mines before I came, just that it was burned and it was the Bracken's fault, wouldn't even press the issue more, but he should be an expert at mines after all"


[ooc]Adding to the side commentary for the peanut gallery and drag another PC in lol

[Ser Jorah Holt]

"
I'm sorry, but I did not hear him discuss the mine. Yoren and Ser kevan were there. They would be able to corroborate what Athelstan said if he did say that. However, everyone stand down and lets see if we can discuss this matter like adults! This does not need to end in bloodshed."

ooc - it was literally before Jorah arrived that he said it

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

"
I'm sorry, but I did not hear him discuss the mine. Yoren and Ser kevan were there. They would be able to corroborate what Athelstan said if he did say that. However, everyone stand down and lets see if we can discuss this matter like adults! This does not need to end in bloodshed."

ooc - it was literally before Jorah arrived that he said it

"
Ser Jorah speaks wisely,"
Corrine agrees. "
Please, let us stand down and discuss this."

[Baelon Drakeson]

[OOC: Apologies, missed the earlier yield offer;
on the other hand yielding can only be done on your turn (though it is not an action) so this was the first opportunity anyway - works out.

"
[Yield]Athelstan offers information on the wild fire, and what he knows of the Iron Mines, and if need be more information regarding other areas of investigation."

Yield offer rejected. Counteroffer:

1. Athelstan truthfully shares everything he knows about all acts of planting, altering, or removing evidence from all investigation sites, by himself or by others.[/*1sjc3e5m]
2. Athelstan truthfully shares everything he knows about the wildfire, including it's origin, original location, current location, who (if anyone) helped him move it, who else knows of it's existence and/or location, and what he knows of his own or other people's plans for it.[/*1sjc3e5m]
3. Athelstan truthfully shares all of his motivations for returning to the mines with Corrine.[/*1sjc3e5m]

[Athelstan]

[yield not accepted, you don't know if I did anything, you are just suspicious or I would not be a suspect Awareness Empathy is not mind reading]
Counter offer:
Athelstan truthfully shares his thoughts about Dunstan or a third party planting evidence as discussed with Corrine (true), removing evidence from only this site (truth), by himself (truth).
Athelstan truthfully shares everything he knows about the wildfire, including it's origin, original location, current location, who (if anyone) helped him move it, who else knows of it's existence and/or location, and what he knows of his own or other people's plans for it.
Athelstan truthfully shares all of his motivations for returning to the mines with Corrine.

Edit: Quit intrigue if yield is unacceptable.

Edited the post to reflect change. Its a pain to quote with my phone and type as it is.

[Reader]

[yield not accepted, you don't know if I did anything, you are just suspicious or I would not be a suspect Awareness Empathy is not mind reading]
Counter offer:
Athelstan truthfully shares everything he knows about all acts of planting (he did not do, this is true), removing evidence from only this site (truth), by himself (truth).
Athelstan truthfully shares everything he knows about the wildfire, including it's origin, original location, current location, who (if anyone) helped him move it, who else knows of it's existence and/or location, and what he knows of his own or other people's plans for it.
Athelstan truthfully shares all of his motivations for returning to the mines with Corrine.

Edit: Quit intrigue if yield is unacceptable.

[OOC: Athelstan will be tweaking the quoted version of this post due to a typo. Everyone - despite IC issues, it's important OOC posts are accurate.]

[Athelstan]

[yield not accepted, you don't know if I did anything, you are just suspicious or I would not be a suspect Awareness Empathy is not mind reading]
Counter offer:
Athelstan truthfully shares his thoughts about Dunstan or a third party planting evidence as discussed with Corrine (true), removing evidence from only this site (truth), by himself (truth).
Athelstan truthfully shares everything he knows about the wildfire, including it's origin, original location, current location, who (if anyone) helped him move it, who else knows of it's existence and/or location, and what he knows of his own or other people's plans for it.
Athelstan truthfully shares all of his motivations for returning to the mines with Corrine.

Edit: Quit intrigue if yield is unacceptable.

Edited the post to reflect change. Its a pain to quote with my phone and type as it is.

Back home.

[Baelon Drakeson]

[I am confused - was the yield accepted? I note that the edited post does not quite match my yield counteroffer. If the counter-offer was accepted I would like the rest of the info that was part of it. Also, of course I am asking for things that Baelon does not know - that is the whole point of an intrigue for information.

If the the counter-offer was NOT accepted I will treat all of the info in that post as OOC and continue the intrigue (the initial yield offer was made at the end of Athelstan's turn, so it would be my turn.

Also I fully understand the pain of trying to write/edit a post on a phone, I'm doing it right now. ]

[Theomore Tullison]

[From how I see it, Athelstan took his action and rolled, then you offered a yield, and he counter-offered. That's the interpretation I see from the sequence of events.]

[Baelon Drakeson]

[OOC: I was counter-offering [url=this out-of sequence yield][/url] that Athelstan re-offered at an appropriate time [url=here][/url]. I had no intent to offer a yield of my own. Regardless, seems to be settled that no yield was accepted, so on to my action... once I reorient myself to what is currently IC happening in the scene.]

Round 2
Baelon addresses Corrine's comments.
"
Yes, I am speaking of the wildfire, and I am acting upon my right -nay, my obligation to prevent a possible attack on the royal overseer arriving tomorrow, by any means necessary. Further, I have reason to believe that Athelstan has not simply removed the wildfire, but that he planted false evidence of it in the Blackwood mines - a clear violation of the duties assigned by the King. Until I am satisfied that I have learned everything he knows - about his own and others' misdeeds."


Turning back to Athelstan, he adds:
"
Insults will not help you here. I already know you hate me for my part in your trial - though to tell the truth I cared not one whit for you. I couldn't give a rat's ass what had happened between you and your brother. I didn't volunteer because of you. You are not worth my time. I volunteered to protect Lord Dunstan, and Gwyn, whom I thought loved him. Your hatred is misplaced. Even now I don't care whether you walk away from this or die here. You mean nothing to me. All I care about is what you can tell me.

Now... tell us everything you know and everything you have done, or I will have my archers fire... and let me tell you, they are very, very good. You would not die from it, no, I need you alive to answer questions. No, you will simply wish you were dead."


Action: [url=R2 Intimidate Athelstan][/url]: 4d6+2-2 9 2#1d6 3 3 ->
13, 2 DoS, 6 - 7 AR = 0 Influence

Intrigue Stats
[url=Initiative][/url]: 4d6+2 22 (Baelon, Athelstan)
Objective: discussed by PM
Disposition Dislike (-2 Persuasion, +1 Deception, 5DR)
Intrigue Defense: 9
Composure: 9/9
Frustration: 0

[OOC: still rolling below average... looks like a Read Target or Consider is in my future... though I still think I should be getting some sort of bonus to intimidate with all those arrows pointed at him...]

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

"
Baelon, I do not believe he intended to mislead anyone. How would someone like him get access to wildfire anyway? I don't understand. Can you at least come aside and tell me alone what you have found that makes you so sure of his guilt?"
Corrine pleads.

[Baelon Drakeson]

[OOC: Corrine, I'm confused where the below portion of that comment is coming from... I didn't say anything about you being coerced.]

"
Baelon, I came here of my own accord. Athelstan did not coerce me to come here. He offered to guide me to the areas of interest.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

[OOC: Corrine, I'm confused where the below portion of that comment is coming from... I didn't say anything about you being coerced.]

"
Baelon, I came here of my own accord. Athelstan did not coerce me to come here. He offered to guide me to the areas of interest.

[ooc: It was because Baelon was demanding to know why Athelstan returned to the mines with Corrine. I took it to imply that Baelon thought Athelstan had brought her there. I can remove it if you want.]

[Athelstan]

Athelstan Quits the intrigue.

Athelstan puts a hand in front of him and his arm stretched "
While I understand it's easy to think I would do those things, you are incorrect, I was about to show Corrine where I moved the Wildfire for safekeeping and in hopes that he could handle it better than I can, for if I presented any evidence or findings without sharing them and showing them to someone else more credible, they would be dismissed with the same attitude you have"
shrugging his shoulders and beginning to walk away "
You can shoot me, ironborn do not fear death all your ridiculous childish behaviors and threats won't get you a word out of me, but all you had to do was ask and I would have told you I marked the widfire inside all the mines to remember where they were, were I originally found it I also marked. I have nothing to win over this feud and much less care about it Longshores have no ties or quarrels here to make or find, so you can shoot or I can show you like I did Corrine, and go to were the Wildfire is which was our next stop, since I have no way to keep it safe but buried and hidden so others won't use it for what you are thinking"
Athelstan does not bother looking back he is not afraid to die, and he goes towards his horse stopping to look at Corrine "
Shall I show you?"

[Baelon Drakeson]

"
I see you need a demonstration of how serious I am, Athelstan. Bloodriders, shoot his horse, then aim at his legs. If he still won't cooperate, maybe crippling him will make him more accommodating."


[url=Marksmanship vs horse (+2D unit vs indiviual, +1D commander attached)][/url]: 7d6 21 against any type of horse, that is 3 DoS, 21 damage. Against any type of horse, that's a dead horse.

It's a bad day to be a horse in Westeros...

[OOC: Corrine, I'm confused where the below portion of that comment is coming from... I didn't say anything about you being coerced.]

"
Baelon, I came here of my own accord. Athelstan did not coerce me to come here. He offered to guide me to the areas of interest.

[ooc: It was because Baelon was demanding to know why Athelstan returned to the mines with Corrine. I took it to imply that Baelon thought Athelstan had brought her there. I can remove it if you want.]

[OOC: Ah, yeah, that was part of the yield process which is all OOC. In part it was wanting him to say that he was trying to mislead you, and in part I thought it would be hilarious if he was obligated to reveal his inner thoughts about wanting to bed you. :;
): ]

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

[ooc: Ok, I'll take it out. For some reason, I misremembered it, and thought you'd mentioned it IC. It would have been entertaining if he'd admitted wanting 'alone time'. ]

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