Re: Game Discussion

[Ereth Redwain]

Just need to work IC to invite House Coldbrook after I talk to Yoren about it.

Don't want to offend the in-law so fast yet lol.

Can serve the purpose of bringing lady Lucas to start getting Yoren married off.

[Reader]

Tentative Schedule - subject to change, I'll update this as I go along, adding months and moving things (will announce in thread)
1) Daleford resuce/personal offseason if not devoting it to this
2) Ser Jorah’s Ascension to the Kingsguard [some of you will be present at this]
3) Campaign again House Wyl [some PCs will be involved, not all]
4) Official event choice [canon events resolved in-game!]
a. Coryls Velaryon illness
b. Arrest of Ser Vaemond Velaryon [Ser Jorah will be allocated to this
5) Market town ownership resolution [offseaon's 2's "
House Event"
brings everyone together briefly]

- Plus potentially Ereth Redwain's wedding (and tournament) to work in for those invited!

Prince Aemond thanks you for the evidence he needs to start a war as we divert ever further from canon. :;
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[Yoren longshore]

War is always cool though...

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

War is always cool though...

I think anyone who thinks war is cool has never fought in one. :;
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[Ser Walton Dulver]

War is always cool though...

I think anyone who thinks war is cool has never fought in one. :;
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What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.

[Ereth Redwain]

Well war is not cool, but when you have a 12hr. work schedule for 7 days and all you see is the same 10 - 40 faces every day for months in a place far away from home, with a desert type weather and geography, plus the camel spiders.... *shudders* when a firefight breaks you are more than joyful to engage for 30min to 2hrs worth of combat to break your monotony of your daily life.

Not to include when you have 24hr guard duty, or have to go outside the wire for a nice wilderness mountain march were you have to look for snakes, camel spiders and your enemy for a couple of hours of awesomeness once a week, or until rotation get's you again whatever comes first, and then you complete your remaining hours of work when you come back and have like 30 mins to recover from that.

War is not cool. Yet you have to make it fun or you will go crazy, then you get ptsd eventually lol as your new warped way of life and view of things changes you.

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

War is always cool though...

I think anyone who thinks war is cool has never fought in one. :;
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What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.

Keen to die, eh? Several people can help with that.

Also, not rightly sure what the weird Ironborn rhetoric has to do with the fact that war is hell.

[Ser Walton Dulver]

Yoren plays as Ironborn, so saying to him that war is not cool, is gently said 'pointless', that's what

[Lady Corrine Marsten]

Yoren plays as Ironborn, so saying to him that war is not cool, is gently said 'pointless', that's what

But, this is the OOC forum, where we're talking about OOC things, not IC things.

[Yoren longshore]

Just meant as a comment, no need to start discussion about whether to kill people is good...

[Ser Walton Dulver]

well, sorry, then I should point it to Ereth then :;
): Had to remake my post, as it had too many quotes in it and got lost obviously.

Anyway, we are talking about Dorne and danger of war- in that specific period, wasn't there situation that no one could really threaten another one? I mean few burnt villages or something yes, but not much more than that, right?

[Ereth Redwain]

Apologies sensitive thing, but no biggie. Just camel spider.... remainder of face hugers from alien movie.

I think skirmishes between,Dorne against the Stormlands and Reach are common perhaps.

[Theomore Tullison]

Heh,

Even Theomore will say that war is terrible. But then again, he thinks it unavoidable, so why not profit?

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Alright, time to clear the air in the 'Truth will out' thread.

Yoren! The point of it all, in OOC terms, is to hold your character to the irons a bit, taking advantage of the opportunity his ill-advised actions against Gwyn has opened up. Basically, you legally arrested her, which opens you up to some repercussions.

That's the point of it. We're not trying to convince you of anything, hence no intrigue. Yoren did something that wasn't a good idea, and we're not letting him get away with it.

My sense of things is that things are starting to curl into a circle though, so I'm good with having some reactions from others, and then concluding things.

What do you guys think?

[Ereth Redwain]

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You are, because you are not holding him up for it, but using something to help Baelon so don't forget to mention that, which is the true meaning behind all that is to get Yoren suffer what Baelon is or he has to exonerate Baelon and make him look like a hypocrite forcing him into a situation to "
defend himself"
against the obvious superior fighter with really not many to take up his cause I think.

You ARE trying to convince him of something with no intrigue by putting him in a tight spot.

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Not really. We're putting him in a tight spot, and letting that speak for itself.

It'd be better if Yoren would stop trying to twist on the line, but it doesn't in the end matter if he admits it or not I don't think.

In the end, if he doesn't drop the charges, then he's open to the same charges...which will make things interesting in Riverrun, or before the tribunal. If he does, then it's done. His actions will define what happens next. What he says is just a formality.

[Ereth Redwain]

If I probably try to say something else it will come up wrong most likely so I'll just step aside and let others comment.

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

That's up to you...but I'd prefer to hear what you have to say. I don't want people to feel like they can't comment.

[Nathaniel Mason]

[url=Cunning][/url]: 2d6 7
[url=+1b to Cunning][/url]: 1d6 1
[url=+1b to Cunning][/url]: 1d6 2
Total = 10 (phew!)

Those are +1b's hun. They don't add into your total. You would need to spend DP.

[Yoren longshore]

Alright, time to clear the air in the 'Truth will out' thread.

Yoren! The point of it all, in OOC terms, is to hold your character to the irons a bit, taking advantage of the opportunity his ill-advised actions against Gwyn has opened up. Basically, you legally arrested her, which opens you up to some repercussions.

That's the point of it. We're not trying to convince you of anything, hence no intrigue. Yoren did something that wasn't a good idea, and we're not letting him get away with it.

My sense of things is that things are starting to curl into a circle though, so I'm good with having some reactions from others, and then concluding things.

What do you guys think?

The way i see it it is a non issue. There is no repercussions as there needs to be more than words to make law count.

[Baelon Drakeson]

You are, because you are not holding him up for it, but using something to help Baelon so don't forget to mention that, which is the true meaning behind all that is to get Yoren suffer what Baelon is or he has to exonerate Baelon and make him look like a hypocrite forcing him into a situation to "
defend himself"
against the obvious superior fighter with really not many to take up his cause I think.

You ARE trying to convince him of something with no intrigue by putting him in a tight spot.

To rephrase what Gwyn said, we've put Yoren into a classic "
damned if you do, damned if you don't"
dilemma. Really, it's not that we put him into it, his own actions did. We just aren't letting him get away with not choosing one fork or the other. We are not exerting any pressure regarding which fork he chooses, thus we are not trying to convince.

As for the "
superior fighter"
fighter comment - well, I could have opened with a challenge for slandering Gwyn, but I didn't. I'm neither afraid of nor hoping that this goes to a trial by combat. That ball is in Yoren's court, so to speak.

The way i see it it is a non issue. There is no repercussions as there needs to be more than words to make law count.

There were more than words. There was an arrest. Whether or not you ever actually put Gwyn in chains, she was your prisoner. Saying after the fact that you didn't really mean it doesn't change what happened.

[url=Cunning][/url]: 2d6 7
[url=+1b to Cunning][/url]: 1d6 1
[url=+1b to Cunning][/url]: 1d6 2
Total = 10 (phew!)

Those are +1b's hun. They don't add into your total. You would need to spend DP.

Note on the same thread - glory has to be spent before a roll - only DP can be spend after (excluding narrator fiat, like the bonus dice generated from the Will test in that event)

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Mmm...yeah, I don't see it working that way.

Like Gwyn's saying IC...this won't be passed off as a joke, or game. We're going to hold him to account, and it will definitely affect how things take place in the future. Yoren can always choose to just brush it off and leave, or claim the whole damn court is out of order, or whatever he likes...but that will have consequences too.

This isn't going to be nothing.

[Yoren longshore]

Mmm...yeah, I don't see it working that way.

Like Gwyn's saying IC...this won't be passed off as a joke, or game. We're going to hold him to account, and it will definitely affect how things take place in the future. Yoren can always choose to just brush it off and leave, or claim the whole damn court is out of order, or whatever he likes...but that will have consequences too.

This isn't going to be nothing.

You can't decide if it's nothing, that's the beauty of it.

[Septon Arlyn]

Baelon barely resits the urge to roll his eyes and speak up at the Septon's last-ditch attempt to convince an unconvinced audience. He has no such reservations about thinking such things, however.

Ser Theomore, Ser Theomore, Black, Black, Black. You sound like a fool, Arlyn. None here who might be motivated to help the Princess' cause thinks of Ser Theomore as Black.... nor you. You have made your Green allegiance quite clear;
you aren't fooling anyone now. Do you really believe that anyone is afraid that this could hurt Prince Daemon's reputation? No... but you - like the turncloak that you are parroting - sure are interested in protecting Green relations with Dorne. It wouldn't do for it to be known that Green soldiers attacked a Dornish caravan, now would it? You'd best hope you are wearing brown robes when you find out what's going to be happening in Dorne in a couple months. The Dornish might not like Prince Daemon, but they are going to absolutely hate Prince Aemond.

The funny thing is... Septon Arlyn is actually arguing the black position. Even if people seem to think otherwise. But he is also arguing the position to bring longer term peace in the realm.

Which is funny considering Baelon was arguing the same thing in the martens pavilion, only about coin and letters instead of a treaty

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As the Septon IC was thinking. The greenest thing he could have done was say nothing and let Baelon's arguments carry the day. By speaking up he was actually speaking for the Black's, making him more of a tratior to the green agenda then Theomore is to the Black's.

[Gwyneth Drakeson]

Actually, I can.

For example, if Yoren leaves, or simply does not choose one of the options placed before him...well, not choosing IS choosing. The charges remain, and Baelon would go to face them.

Then, at the hearing, we cite THIS case. If you don't think this won't undermine your charges there, well, I think you're wrong. Certainly any judgement against Baelon would have to also be extended to you.

That's not nothing.

You're correct in saying the Drakesons can't decide what happens next. But I feel pretty safe in saying OOC that this won't be nothing.

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