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Ereth Redwain
Ser Jergen Rohmner
Ser Raynald Dulver
Samurel Manderly
Athelstan
Jamys Rivers
Dunstan Tullison
Yve Tullison
Luecian LongBow
Ser Walton Dulver
Daveth Coldbrook
Maester Colton
Nathaniel Mason
Loreia
Septon Arlyn
Baelon Drakeson
Benedict Marsten
Gwyneth Drakeson
Lady Corrine Marsten
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Post by Athelstan Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:18 pm

Wtf total war is complex...

Will download and check it out

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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:24 pm

Dunstan Tullison wrote:Difference is you control a certain character that governs a piece of land and go through history. When he dies the heir inherits and you play as him, and so on..
You can arrange marriages, create plots, assassinate other people.. it's really fun, but has a steep learning curve.

My partner plays it too. Once, while playing a female child heir, pushed one of the advisors off a balcony because they didn't like them, hehe.
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Post by Dunstan Tullison Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:35 pm

Oh yeah! Sometimes they have your character transform a toilet into a bomb and explode by using all the gasses. Dangerous times, especially for annoying advisers and people in front of you in line of inheritance.

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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:47 pm

I believe there is a modded Westeros version somewhere.
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Post by Dunstan Tullison Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:54 pm

Yeah! It's a very well-done mod too, I play it often. I made House Tullison in this exact time period, it is pretty awesome.

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Post by Athelstan Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:16 am

Do you need the ten million dlc's for the mod to work?

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Post by Dunstan Tullison Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:21 am

You don't need any dlc, but you can use a lot of them with the mod.

I only use ruler designer and way of life. I don't think the latest mod version is compatible with the latest update of CK, but frankly don't remember the details on which version of the game works with what version of the mod. That should all be in the mods description.

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Post by Daveth Coldbrook Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:25 am

I also have spent over 200 hours with Crusader Kings 2, much of which has been spent with the SoIaF mod (in which, perhaps strangely, I have mostly been playing Ironborn). But yes, very, very steep learning curve. I really didn't understand what was going on at all until I looked at some Youtube video tutorials, and I'm a very experienced strategy gamer.

It is, I would say, probably my favourite strategy game, and one of my favourite games of any genre. I think because in many 4x-type games, it's pretty rare that I suffer serious setbacks without it being a prelude to defeat. While in this game, you can lose vast amounts of territory and power from an unfortunate succession, but once you've done that, you're reasonably safe again, and can start rebuilding your power base, so it has much more dramatic highs and lows than most other games of its like I've played.

There's one DLC, Legacy of Rome, that I would say is critical. I think you need it for Factions to appear. They are such a big part of the game that I wouldn't play it without that. Old Gods is probably also critical if you intend to play ironborn in the mod. Off-hand, I would say everything else is 'nice to have'.
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Post by Dunstan Tullison Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:32 am

Cool! I played a lot too, but less than you:) Factions are great!
I loved playing as ironborn, but playing as Aurane Waters in Feast scenario is my favorite. You can raid and pillage and not have the Iron Throne constantly want to conquer you.
Playing as Balon in 5 Kings scenario is awesome, especially if you accept Rob's offer.

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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:06 am

I've been playing Hatoful Boyfriend all day. This shit is bananas.
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Post by Athelstan Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:25 am

To bad I probably don't hear Baelon's words would have made for an interesting hunting trip Twisted Evil

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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:37 am

Athelstan wrote:To bad I probably don't hear Baelon's words would have made for an interesting hunting trip Twisted Evil

I suspect you're loving the anticipation of trouble. :;
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I know I am. I wonder who will challenge you first. Short odds on Baelon and Ben Laughing
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Post by Athelstan Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:41 am

I have to many personal objective to fulfill in 8 days lol doubt I'll get half of them, but I can try.

Regarding trouble, well someone has to spice things up around here Twisted Evil

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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:44 am

Athelstan wrote:I have to many personal objective to fulfill in 8 days lol doubt I'll get half of them, but I can try.

Regarding trouble, well someone has to spice things up around here Twisted Evil

Look out, Theo! A challenger appears! Laughing
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Post by Athelstan Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:46 am

We just do it in different ways Twisted Evil so there is no conflict there Smile

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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:25 am

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:I wonder who will challenge you first. Short odds on Baelon and Ben Laughing
I really have no reason to challenge Athelstan. Baelon does not like him, but that's not enough to draw steel over.
I think it'll either be that Ben challenges Athelstan or Athelstan challenges Baelon.

The dark horse is that somebody challenges Yoren/House Longshore in general and Athelstan steps up as champion.
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Post by Athelstan Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:26 am

Most likely Yoren getting challenged or me challenging Baelon, but have no real justifiable reason.

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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:27 am

Pfft! Reasons, schmeasons. Razz
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:31 am

Oh, once the rumors start flying about the two of you Ben will have plenty of reason.... to save face if nothing else.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:45 am

Baelon wrote:Oh, once the rumors start flying about the two of you Ben will have plenty of reason.... to save face if nothing else.

*whistles innocently*

Nothing to gossip about yet. She's had, like, 2 conversations with him, and has not said or done anything untoward. Had a few impure thoughts, but those are internal, and she probably won't do anything about them.

He's being somewhat less subtle by actually flirting. :;
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:51 am

Heh, rumors need reasons even less than challenges do. Just being seen whispering together would be more than enough - especially if someone remembers the rumors about you two from the tourney...
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Post by Athelstan Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:57 am

Same way, Baelon could be lured to confront Athelstan just to save face, I doubt lord Benedict would be inclined to it.

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Post by Loreia Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:05 am

Loreia will...not. She has no reason, but she wouldn't mind having one. How I justify the hostility at Riverrun during what was supposed to be practice is that Loreia had never dealt with the Ironborn in any capacity other than violent conflict. She's gotten over it now, and kinda realized on her way back from Thenn that she's going to have to deal with the Ironborn more often in a neutral setting, and continuing to flaunt her grudge the way she has will only make things unnecessarily difficult. She learned this when trading with Thenns and traveling with her Free Folk grandmother. Don't worry, the hate is still there, for both groups.

I've realized I need to drop the outright hostility In Character for Athelstan being a raider, because that happens far away from us in Essos, and Dorne when they're at conflict with the rest of the Seven Kingdoms. Maybe we all do, just a bit. Some of your characters may be able to overlook raids on Essos, but Loreia's lived it and doesn't really care if those people at Slaver's Bay are nasty people. She'll hold a grudge, but she can leave hostilities at the door - at least now she can.

She hasn't even heard about Slaver's Bay(Yunkai, Meereen, etc), though she has heard of a few free cities of Braavos, mostly thanks to Wrecker Jon and Yoren.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:09 am

Baelon wrote:Heh, rumors need reasons even less than challenges do. Just being seen whispering together would be more than enough - especially if someone remembers the rumors about you two from the tourney...

A year is a long time in politics. But even if rumours do arise, I doubt they'll stick. Like last time, they'll likely be forgotten in days.

Athelstan wrote:Same way, Baelon could be lured to confront Athelstan just to save face, I doubt lord Benedict would be inclined to it.

Ben, Corrine hopes, has learned his lesson from the last time he started a fight.
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Post by Ser Jorah Holt Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:09 pm

You hope so Smile

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